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State of Sacrilege

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turtle watts
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-10-28 18:45:32 UTC
Hi everyone, ive been training into the Sac, which has been a personal favorite of mine for time immemorial. My question is, whats the state of the ship in pvp? Is it still a good viable roaming ship, or is it outclassed by similar ships? If so, what would be a better focus?

I can go any direction for any race and it will take the same amount of time, just looking for some input.

THANKYOU!
Job Valador
Professional Amateurs
#2 - 2013-10-28 22:16:33 UTC
Every ship has its strengths and weaknesses. Fly whatever and find those strengths and weaknesses.

I like the sac because of the khanid colors.
I fly the sac because it looks good to me.

However i cant fly my sac in big fleets do to no missile doctrines with the fleets i fly, but as a solo ship it is not half bad when i fly it against ships bigger than me. I have problems fighting ships smaller than me.

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Chessur
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#3 - 2013-10-28 22:25:51 UTC
turtle watts wrote:
Hi everyone, ive been training into the Sac, which has been a personal favorite of mine for time immemorial. My question is, whats the state of the ship in pvp? Is it still a good viable roaming ship, or is it outclassed by similar ships? If so, what would be a better focus?

I can go any direction for any race and it will take the same amount of time, just looking for some input.

THANKYOU!


It so not a viable roaming ship, and is out classed by other HACs / cruisers.

If you like missiles, a better focus would be:

Caracal, RLM
Cerberus, RLM
Scyth Fleet RLM

Or if you just like HAC's

Cerb
Ishtar

The sac is too slow to really be an effective small gang / solo roaming ship. It has horrible DPS application against smaller targets so in reality is a very poor choice. Try and find a ship that has better speed / projection. If you like amarr, the Omen navy issue is really an amazing ship, along with the Oracle.

If you have any other questions, shoot me a PM or something
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#4 - 2013-10-28 23:31:13 UTC
Its a decent ship solo or in small gang, but it doesn't particularly bring anything new to the table. Just a standard dps boat and there are better options.
Lady Naween
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2013-10-30 06:05:31 UTC
It is a good ship despite what MR FA said. For lowsec I gladly take it out as it can easily tank gateguns while still being nimble enough to outwit gangs. And it has nice firepower as well.

Dual rep and you can tank things very comfortably while chewing them up, my only complaint is that I need to pack so many different kind of missiles ^^
Danny John-Peter
Blue Canary
Watch This
#6 - 2013-10-30 08:31:37 UTC
Lady Naween wrote:
It is a good ship despite what MR FA said. For lowsec I gladly take it out as it can easily tank gateguns while still being nimble enough to outwit gangs. And it has nice firepower as well.

Dual rep and you can tank things very comfortably while chewing them up, my only complaint is that I need to pack so many different kind of missiles ^^


I don't like the Sac as much for this these days.

Deimos just does the Dual Rep thing better IMO, its still good as a gang ship though, and probably solo although cant say I've soloed in one recently.
Major Killz
inglorious bastards.
#7 - 2013-10-30 09:58:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Major Killz
Danny John-Peter wrote:
Lady Naween wrote:
It is a good ship despite what MR FA said. For lowsec I gladly take it out as it can easily tank gateguns while still being nimble enough to outwit gangs. And it has nice firepower as well.

Dual rep and you can tank things very comfortably while chewing them up, my only complaint is that I need to pack so many different kind of missiles ^^


I don't like the Sac as much for this these days.

Deimos just does the Dual Rep thing better IMO, its still good as a gang ship though, and probably solo although cant say I've soloed in one recently.


I use below. Gives me more optionality compared to the Deimos. There have been plenty of engagements I would have lost the Deimos in but did not because I had the option to kite whatever target. So I surivived more I suppose but that did not result in more kills that is failure of course. Rather lose the ship than not kill anything at times and I tend to do that for giggles more than often but the cost of the ship stops those tendencies. I have had an engagement where I had to tanki 5 tech-1 cruisers (Thorax Rupture and Vexor); another where there were 2 Ishtars and a Vengeance that I survived. There was another agianst 15 dudes in mix cruisers and frigates that I also surivived because I was dictating alot range at the beginging before fully commiting and prolonging things long enough to do what needed to be done. So I prefer it because it gives me options and I don't have to worry so much about tracking disruptors and tracking. I am able to do good damage to assault frigates like a Hawk and Vengeance forcing them to tank hard or explode. The neut and web helps ALOT against frigates. So, yeah! It's my prefered close range HAC atm. While I use the Cerberus for Skirmishing.

Note: in none of said engagements did I receive ANY FLEET BONUSES.

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#8 - 2013-10-30 22:28:56 UTC
It's the best AHAC, but for smaller gang and solo it's pretty trash.

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