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So how bad did the economy just get screwed by Amazon?

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Protovarious
The Neocom Network
#201 - 2013-10-29 11:41:37 UTC
Baali Tekitsu wrote:
Malcanis wrote:


I tell the truth. Try following that behaviour standard maybe?


You need to tell him how he has no life, that'll show him!

Frying Doom wrote:
Trebor bashing is perfectly understandable

It won't matter. With what I estimate to be 70% of his posts since May either bashing CCP, the CSM, or otherwise general tinfoil hattery, (see Tinfoil Hat News Ltd. (Closed) from 2012.06.01 03:33 to 2012.06.15 13:33.) We have nothing short of the most pathetic attempt at trolling I've ever encountered.

I mean, hell...if all this disdain for the game and using home sec status as a form of some kind of opinion prejudice is any indication, I'd almost venture to wager that we're dealing with a failed high-sec CSM candidate who somehow thinks that being a CSM would've enabled him to dish all the tinfoil hattery he wanted.

Problem is, Poetic Stanza already beat him to it.

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Kra RA
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#202 - 2013-10-29 11:59:53 UTC
ban amazon. we want fair game for all. now 1k us players have unfair advantage.
Frying Doom
#203 - 2013-10-29 12:04:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Frying Doom
Protovarious wrote:


Problem is, Poetic Stanza already beat him to it.

Protovarious wrote:
Multiple pages of people making the same points and counterpoints.

This thread does not deliver.

<----Main

So Protovarious is your Main.

LoserLol

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Abigail La'Fey
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#204 - 2013-10-29 12:28:39 UTC
You realise non-US players can buy from Amazon.com as well?
seth Hendar
I love you miners
#205 - 2013-10-29 13:13:38 UTC
Texcoyo wrote:
Many people missed out on this messup by amazon, myself included. But I am not at all mad or blaming CCP for something they had no control over. This exact situation is like this, for the hard-headed:

Joe buys a car for $10,000 from Ford

Joe then sells the car on randomsalesite

Joe has fat fingers and puts it up for $1000

Bill buys car immediately for $1000

Ford still recieved $10k for car, Joe lost money for not double checking his sale price, and bill scored a huge deal. Asking Joe to buy another car for $10k and resell for $1000 because everyone couldn't cash in this deal is selfish, and obviously dumb.

Ford=CCP, Joe=Amazon, Bill= Players that got a good deal on plex.

Malcanis is not defending CCP, he is simply stating the truth of the situation.

agreed, thus your demonstration, even if it perfectly explain what happen here, just show one thing:

this doesn't impact CCP's economy from a cent.

BUT it impact EvE's economy because of "massive" (how massive to be defined indeed) injection of plex
Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#206 - 2013-10-29 14:19:17 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
[quote=Jarod Garamonde]
Now in this case it was Amazon who was at fault and there is Malcanis again defending everyone but the players.


You could whine about anything, couldn't you?

A thousand players got PLEXes for $1.50 or so, each. How do we need to be "defended"?
Just get back in your cage.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Gothikia
Le Goobers
#207 - 2013-10-29 14:25:38 UTC
Why the hell were you guys selling Plex on Amazon in the first place? Mintchip's idea amirite?

<3 Gothie

Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#208 - 2013-10-29 14:27:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Jarod Garamonde
Gothikia wrote:
Why the hell were you guys selling Plex on Amazon in the first place? Mintchip's idea amirite?


How in the nine circles of Hell is that a bad idea?

And what the hell does Mintchip have to do with any of this? She's a DUST Dev, not an EVE Dev.

(PS: not white-knighting... just hate suckerpunches aimed at uninvolved people. That being said, I like her YouTube personna, but I am witholding judgement on her as a CCP employee until I see anything to judge her for. Because right now, she's a cute redhead with a decent YouTube show and some questionable comments about EVE)

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Frying Doom
#209 - 2013-10-29 14:30:08 UTC
Gambling Act 2005

section 3. Gambling

In this Act “gambling” means—

(a)gaming (within the meaning of section 6),

(b)betting (within the meaning of section 9), and

(c)participating in a lottery (within the meaning of section 14 and subject to section 15).

section 9. Betting: general

(1)In this Act “betting” means making or accepting a bet on—

(a)the outcome of a race, competition or other event or process,

(b)the likelihood of anything occurring or not occurring, or

(c)whether anything is or is not true.

section 14. Lottery


(1)For the purposes of this Act an arrangement is a lottery, irrespective of how it is described, if it satisfies one of the descriptions of lottery in subsections (2) and (3).

(2)An arrangement is a simple lottery if—

(a)persons are required to pay in order to participate in the arrangement,

(b)in the course of the arrangement one or more prizes are allocated to one or more members of a class, and

(c)the prizes are allocated by a process which relies wholly on chance.

(3)An arrangement is a complex lottery if—

(a)persons are required to pay in order to participate in the arrangement,

(b)in the course of the arrangement one or more prizes are allocated to one or more members of a class,

(c)the prizes are allocated by a series of processes, and

(d)the first of those processes relies wholly on chance.

(4)In this Act “prize” in relation to lotteries includes any money, articles or services—

(a)whether or not described as a prize, and

(b)whether or not consisting wholly or partly of money paid, or articles or services provided, by the members of the class among whom the prize is allocated.

So a prize does not have to be money under UK law where CCP servers are and in this CCP is a vital part of this link.

More so considering Somer Blinks site COGDEV.NET, is registered in Panama.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#210 - 2013-10-29 14:32:28 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:

-truncated-
"bunch of dumb crap that has nothing to do with this situation"



You are a drama queen and a charlatan. Please give your New Edenly possessions to a random player and biomass.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Frying Doom
#211 - 2013-10-29 14:34:31 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:

-truncated-
"bunch of dumb crap that has nothing to do with this situation"



You are a drama queen and a charlatan. Please give your New Edenly possessions to a random player and biomass.

Please for the love of god buy a dictionary.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#212 - 2013-10-29 14:39:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Jarod Garamonde
Frying Doom wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:

-truncated-
"bunch of dumb crap that has nothing to do with this situation"



You are a drama queen and a charlatan. Please give your New Edenly possessions to a random player and biomass.

Please for the love of god buy a dictionary.


If you don't understand what I said, then you're the one who needs a dictionary.

Charlatan: one who deliberately spreads false rumors, misleading information, and outright lies in order to attempt to discredit one person, group, or entity, and/or exalt himself.

That fits you, to a T, in this entire thread, Skippy.

And you forgot to punctuate that sentence. So...... yeah. Zip it.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#213 - 2013-10-29 14:40:14 UTC
Soooo… why is this thread at 12 pages when the first three were pretty much completely void of meaningful posts and the only real (but very minor) issue was resolved on page 4?
Baali Tekitsu
AQUILA INC
#214 - 2013-10-29 14:41:35 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Soooo… why is this thread at 12 pages when the first three were pretty much completely void of meaningful posts and the only real (but very minor) issue was resolved on page 4?


I need a high post count per day for my ego.

RATE LIKE SUBSCRIBE

Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#215 - 2013-10-29 14:41:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Jarod Garamonde
Tippia wrote:
Soooo… why is this thread at 12 pages when the first three were pretty much completely void of meaningful posts and the only real (but very minor) issue was resolved on page 4?


Because "Someone on the Internet is wrong".....

I even have a t-shirt for this very thing. I'm actually wearing it, right now.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Gothikia
Le Goobers
#216 - 2013-10-29 14:44:32 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Gothikia wrote:
Why the hell were you guys selling Plex on Amazon in the first place? Mintchip's idea amirite?


How in the nine circles of Hell is that a bad idea?

And what the hell does Mintchip have to do with any of this? She's a DUST Dev, not an EVE Dev.

(PS: not white-knighting... just hate suckerpunches aimed at uninvolved people. That being said, I like her YouTube personna, but I am witholding judgement on her as a CCP employee until I see anything to judge her for. Because right now, she's a cute redhead with a decent YouTube show and some questionable comments about EVE)


Totally white-knighting. It's called a humorous dig, y'know, that thing people do in jest? Lighten up buddy, you might still get your chance!

<3 Gothie

Frying Doom
#217 - 2013-10-29 14:47:14 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:


If you don't understand what I said, then you're the one who needs a dictionary.

Charlatan: one who deliberately spreads false rumors, misleading information, and outright lies in order to attempt to discredit one person, group, or entity, and/or exalt himself.

That fits you, to a T, in this entire thread, Skippy.

And you forgot to punctuate that sentence. So...... yeah. Zip it.

You got that definition from where exactly?

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#218 - 2013-10-29 14:50:08 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:


If you don't understand what I said, then you're the one who needs a dictionary.

Charlatan: one who deliberately spreads false rumors, misleading information, and outright lies in order to attempt to discredit one person, group, or entity, and/or exalt himself.

That fits you, to a T, in this entire thread, Skippy.

And you forgot to punctuate that sentence. So...... yeah. Zip it.

You got that definition from where exactly?


From the fact that it actually is the definition.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#219 - 2013-10-29 14:52:06 UTC
Yeah, charlatan is a pretty accurate description, definitely within the acceptable uses of the term.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#220 - 2013-10-29 14:52:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Tippia wrote:
Soooo… why is this thread at 12 pages when the first three were pretty much completely void of meaningful posts and the only real (but very minor) issue was resolved on page 4?

Because some people are desperate to make real world definitions, rules, and regulations work in a fictional universe, apply to fictional assets, and pertain to fictional currency... while the rest of us can't resist watching the train wreck of logic happen.

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