EVE General Discussion

The problem is goons kicking over people's sov.

We need more structure hitpoints and more timers to prevent this.

Varius and Baaldor get it. Sov should be about controlling a system, not waiting for a reinforcement ping. As for those arguing that they shouldn't be forced to play a certain way because this is a game... Well you're being forced to play a certain way because this is a game no matter what. After all, I can't just choose to pod all members of all Sov holding organizations. Which is very unfair. How dare you force me to train skills, buy a ship, fit it and then engage you in combat? This is a game! I shouldn't be forced to play how you want me to! Alright, now that I've typed my requisite argument that I'm special but you're not, let's look at it from a more intelligent angle. Any game mechanic that adds to the dynamic nature of a single shard, sandbox MMO is a good thing. Anything that adds stagnation is not. Don't you want more fleet fights? More glory? More opportunity? I know I do. I want there to be more of everything good, like strategic defenses and well planned offensives, and less of all things bad like blobs and structure grinding.

Can we expect anything more from that poster lol? Local alerts his tragets = local shoudl be removed, can't find cloakers in a system to kill them = claoking needs to go away. Can't kill a poco = Reinforcement mechanics need to go away. Didn't bring logictics support alt to null sec so had to do a 70 jump round trip = " SOV space should give me a place to dock and refit" etc etc.

He just doesn't think like us man, he has no sense of fairness beyond his on personal needs, it's useless arguing with people like this.

By definition, that's an unfair perspective. Which kinda made me laugh out loud when I realized it.

I agree. Eve is pretty harsh at times

imagine there's no sovereignty.

I can't take credit for the idea, my friend John mentioned it to me.

Seriously though, here is a from the hip idea I'd like to see tried in my fever dream reality I'm going to make up mostly off the top of my head right now:

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Make every possible resource as dynamic and shifting as possible. Everything dries up, everything spawns (a new vein/belt/whatever is suddenly 'discovered' somewhere in the universe).

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Controlling a system should give excellent bonuses and require significant investment. It should be a big deal.

You should have a capital system, a home.

Controlling a constellation should give minor increases in bonuses and require even more significant investment.

Scale from there,
diminishing returns on bonuses for additional constellations held,
greater than linear (if not exponential) increase in investment required to hold more and more systems do the degree owning more than a region or two/few is basically impossible under one alliance flag.

lots more can be done with this

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Corporations and alliances reworked to do similar. Mandatory division of roles, many corporations required instead of mega-corps. No one gets all the keys. A large coalition can (and should) still be possible, this is about opening up opportunity for competition, espionage. Organizations more susceptible to cut-throat treason the larger they get.

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Logistics becoming more difficult as they scale larger, not easier.

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Stations are never controlled by alliances in any way, must be controlled by a corp. How is that different from now? The same diminishing/exponential theme of effects to limit just how many stations any one corp can control (want a bunch of stations? like 3 regions worth? you need the pets or member corps to do it) .

Docking privileges can only be extended to your alliance, never blue or other specific standings. Include the option to allow docking by anyone at all.

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Make travel hard again,
make distance matter.
I'm not talking about warp to 0 (though would warp to 5 be so bad?)

I'm talking about magically cyno jumping everywhere. keep the cynos, make them shorter, costlier and remove jump bridges and freighters entirely with the exception of black ops.
ok... maybe keep jump bridges, but limit their throughput much like a wormhole to specific gang-size cap (just use more bridges? again, more division, harder tactics and room for mistakes. maybe only members of a wing can use any one jump bridge on top of the throughput cap

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bring back AoE titan weapons

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as an organization only corps can assign standings. aside from auto standings with everyone in alliance every corp must maintain their own list. good standings list is limited to any X (10?) corporations

you can dispense all the negative standings you want to as many corporations as you want

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My dream is an eve where there is every opportunity for a stab in the back,
a moment of opportunity to be grasped by an underdog,

where a large coalition is as much work to maintain as it was to form.

Where space can be held by anyone, and it has at any moment the possibility of becoming more (or less) valuable than you can imagine.

Where conflict reigns supreme. More opportunity for blue on blue as well as blue on red.

Organized battles are still large, but as size of force increases, the logistics of battle become as difficult to manage as the battle itself.

Resources are dynamic, dynamic, dynamic, dynamic.


Everything scalable, but not without every increasing difficulties.

But we'll probably just get some new structures with 5,000,000,000 HP and they'll call it a day.
(ps: I was kidding about the titan AoE )

Actually, make only the ceo able to accept applications to a corp, that'll stop them

Alavaria is trying to tell you that the majority of your ideas to make it harder for organizations will be overcome by player communities and those barriers will just make it more difficult for all of Eve's communities to compete.

*damn it; you got me to respond. 6/10

I love you too Karis. PS my shield boosted Proteus says Hi!... PPS I never use nulli, its a terrible subsystem.

if any member ceo can disband the alliance, suddenly no more random alt corps either