EVE General Discussion

And here we go. IZ seems to believe that you should be FORCED to recruit Russians and other such people from different timezones, just to defend your stuff against day tripper wannabes and Rebel Alliance heroes like himself.

Because his player choice is more important than yours, folks. You heard it here.

No, it's forced. You outright said that, if timers are removed and someone can't keep their sov, it's their fault for not recruiting more people in other timezones.

That is saying "multi timezone or GTFO". That's force. That's you being a weak lazy player who wants to hobble the competition because you can't beat them.

No its called choosing. You want to be rich you choose to work hard to get rich. You want a nice looking girlfriend or (maybe you want a nice looking boyfriend?) you work at making yourself look nice and desirable. No ones forcing you to do that you just get extra good stuff if you choose to go after it.

This is exactly the same, you choose to recruit a balanced time zone alliance and you get nice stuff (Sov) or you don't and you get ping pong.

That's how life works, I know its hard for the Y generation to understand effort and reward but that's actually the reality.

Just dropping timers is such an impossible outcome that it's not even worth arguing about. It's the equivalent of someone coming in and saying "pinkforestbanana", and then crossing their arms as if it was your turn to offer a rebuttal. It's a literal non-issue because it will never happen.

You forgot that it's a shield fit Proteus, because IZ is such a special snowflake that any criticism just falls off like Teflon.

And besides, the fact that I haven't lived in null in years, and as such have nothing to defend with my statements, will surely fall on deaf ears.

That's why I said IZ bores me. At least the previous iteration of forum trolls were semi amusing. But Harry is a broken record (I also imagine everything he says in the Randy Newman voice) and IZ is just a incurable fool. Gotham deserves a better class of criminal.

Get rid of all of it. I don't need a flag to tell me that my corp 'owns' a system and neither do I need to see our name on a map. We own a system by dominating all traffic within it. Territories need a reliable and consistent military to maintain them if you don't have that you don't have 'sov' even if your name is on the map.

Naw, the outcome is alliances forming whenever it's convenient for them, and trying to out-spam their own structures and out-grind the enemy's structures so that the enemy loses activity at a higher rate to burnout from absolutely eye-stabbingly nauseating gameplay.

Which, unfortunately, is not far off where we are now with Dominion, but this would be even worse.

There is some merit to that, I'd say. In quite a few systems, it wouldn't really matter to anyone if the Goons dropped sov on them tomorrow. The fact that the flag still flies is largely due to the desire to flip everyone else the virtual bird by having that much sov.

At least, from what I can tell. I am neither an interested party nor part of the Goon finance team, so whatever benefit, if any, they gain from holding those systems would be beyond me.

Progodlegend would love a good staging system for the invasion in which his coalition will fulfill the stated goal for which it exists.

Also, you want ihub upgrades, for general use. Renters care about this in particular.

Oh yeah also jump bridges (nerf force projectionnnnn), cyno beacons (free killmails) and cyojammers.

And sov bonuses for towers. Which will be less important as your gains will be siphoned away, grr goons siphon all their reaction farms

Actually this gives me an idea.

Instead of gates, use pos-based methods to decide if the station/ihub is invulnerable. So it's like this,

You need a sovereignty blockade unit on more than half of the planets.

For each planet, you need a sovereignty invasion unit on more than half of the moons. ( You can put sovereignty invasion units on grid with a hostile pos). For planets with no moons, you can just sbu the planet.

You can have multiple online SBU/SIUs at any time. This does away with defensive SBUing. They will have to be placeable like siphons, not snap-to a grid.


Once online, a SIU has one shield reinforce timer. One onlined, a SBU has two (shield, armor) reinforce timer. The TCU should be placed on the sun now, it has three (shield, armor, structure) timers.


Basically, once you have a SBU up, it works even if you lose control over the moons. But if you don't have control, you can't online a SBU. Same for TCUs. Having more than half of the planets SBUed only allows you to online a TCU, previously online TCUs will all count for sov in the order they were onlined. So if there were already four TCUs up, you'd have to destroy them and make sure #5 was yours.

Of course if your enemy starts onlining 10 more tcus when you drop SIUs on their pos, you have to destroy all 15 and make sure #16 if yours.