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Goons actions in high-sec

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Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#81 - 2013-10-27 14:13:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Varius Xeral
Chopper Rollins wrote:
YO I'M HAPPY FOR YOU AND IMMA LET YOU FINISH BUT THAT'S LIKE YOU'VE BEATEN WHAT 15% OF THE PILOTS IN SPACE HEY THEY MUST BE THE BEST 15% OK FINE MOAR SOCK PUPPET THREADS OTHERWISE NOBODY WOULD KNOW.



That may be the worst post ever.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#82 - 2013-10-27 14:14:02 UTC
Chopper Rollins wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Rekon X wrote:
Goons cower in null surrounded by their bought off alliances on all sides. They need to gank high sec ships to feel relevant. What else can they do?



We have beaten everything else out here so we are coming for the entitaled mob that is the high sec bears.


YO I'M HAPPY FOR YOU AND IMMA LET YOU FINISH BUT THAT'S LIKE YOU'VE BEATEN WHAT 15% OF THE PILOTS IN SPACE HEY THEY MUST BE THE BEST 15% OK FINE MOAR SOCK PUPPET THREADS OTHERWISE NOBODY WOULD KNOW.




So by attacking the ivory tower that is high sec we go to war with the spineless masses.
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#83 - 2013-10-27 14:14:53 UTC
fuer0n wrote:
baltec1 wrote:

We have beaten everything else out here so we are coming for the entitaled mob that is the high sec bears.


beaten? **** off.


Not exactly saying you're wrong here, but I'm curious as to what you're implying.

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Reiisha
#84 - 2013-10-27 14:16:43 UTC
Real goons use their mains for highsec ganking.

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...

fuer0n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#85 - 2013-10-27 14:17:51 UTC
Varius Xeral wrote:
fuer0n wrote:
baltec1 wrote:

We have beaten everything else out here so we are coming for the entitaled mob that is the high sec bears.


beaten? **** off.


Not exactly saying you're wrong here, but I'm curious as to what you're implying.


read my edit

ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#86 - 2013-10-27 14:19:25 UTC
The idea of an "alliance-wide sec status" is interesting. Nothing else though.

Dodixie > Hek

Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#87 - 2013-10-27 14:20:56 UTC
fuer0n wrote:


read my edit



Yeah, that didn't really clarify anything.

Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal

Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#88 - 2013-10-27 14:21:24 UTC
Well it did, but not in any way to your advantage.

Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#89 - 2013-10-27 14:22:27 UTC
fuer0n wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Rekon X wrote:
Goons cower in null surrounded by their bought off alliances on all sides. They need to gank high sec ships to feel relevant. What else can they do?



We have beaten everything else out here so we are coming for the entitaled mob that is the high sec bears.


beaten? **** off.


you got off the high chair they bought you yet?

yes i read your bio.


Would you like to join? We only need a small security deposit.
fuer0n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#90 - 2013-10-27 14:27:28 UTC
Varius Xeral wrote:
Well it did, but not in any way to your advantage.



cant plaese all of the people all of the time.
Richard Ramlrez
Doomheim
#91 - 2013-10-27 14:29:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Richard Ramlrez
High sec is also a PVP area. Too bad you didnt realize that. But still, i think that CCP as a company that doesn't run on charity should revamp how the system works.

If CCP has any PR and Human Resources Department to do researches about who are their custumers they would realize by now that the majority of their paying susbcribers are fond of non PVP and live in High Sec permanently.

So while EVE is mostly a PVP MMORPG, it is a MMORPG. And the way the game is it is more towards a COD or Battlefield than an online RPG.

I believe that EVE is unique because it has criminals like goons or others pirates but i think that the way the system deals with them is too lightly.

PVPers have it too easy by ganking cheap ships against ships that can be valued 10x more and there's little consequences and many ways to dribble the small penalty system applied to them.


In the end, the High-Sec players, the dominant population that supports the servers, the devs and the company itself are being treated as second rate customers while the minority of PVPers that gives CCP much less revenue are the ones they support more.

Let's face it. Concord is a joke. Goons and other squads are virtually immune to losing anything of value in the game because they are in huge coalitions that protect themselves and make smaller ones avoid them. So basically if you are in one those huge PVP coalitions you are in a 1.1 system where nobody attacks you.


So i wonder, is this the best way to keep EVE going? It's not about asking for Hi-Sec players to be immune to attacks, no that's part of the game, but let's face it. The true carebears are not in hi-sec. They are in huge PVP colations making 10x more isk per day than any one else.

If EVE is about risk, whats the risk these guys are having? Losing a Battleship that costs 200million to gank? Thats NOTHING to them and they can do it 1000 times a day if they have the patience because their immunity in lower/null secs gives them all ISK they want. There is no Concord looking for pirates in null or low sec or ganking them, or gate camping them.


So i think it would be a nice time for CCP as a profit gaming company to rethink how the system treats their main source of income. Make Concord react quicker, make Concord kill everyone in the same fleet that the ganker attacks, make Concord attack anyone that loots the wrecks of killed playrs if they have a huge security status.


Gankers will still exist for the fun of harrasing others, goons will still make people cry delicious tears but it will balance more the tables. As of now, the ones with easy mode in this game are the ones in the big PVP coalitions.

They are basically immune to considerable risks in this game. I just saw a pirate trasher flying normally from warp to warp in hi-sec. Concord is a joke.


Oh and btw, get a GM in Jita to start banning scammers spam. Pay him minimum wage just for that.
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#92 - 2013-10-27 14:31:53 UTC
Richard Ramlrez wrote:
to do researches about who are their custumers they would realize by now that the majority of their paying susbcribers are fond of non PVP and live in High Sec permanently.


They have, and you're wrong.

Didn't read the rest.

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fuer0n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#93 - 2013-10-27 14:32:38 UTC  |  Edited by: fuer0n
baltec1 wrote:
fuer0n wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Rekon X wrote:
Goons cower in null surrounded by their bought off alliances on all sides. They need to gank high sec ships to feel relevant. What else can they do?



We have beaten everything else out here so we are coming for the entitaled mob that is the high sec bears.


beaten? **** off.


you got off the high chair they bought you yet?

yes i read your bio.


Would you like to join? We only need a small security deposit.


in there been there and done that all i saw were scrubs mostly.



relying on scraps:P
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#94 - 2013-10-27 14:36:19 UTC
Or you could start putting a tank on your ships.

Its not the game that makes killing you people easy.
Richard Ramlrez
Doomheim
#95 - 2013-10-27 14:38:58 UTC
Varius Xeral wrote:
Richard Ramlrez wrote:
to do researches about who are their custumers they would realize by now that the majority of their paying susbcribers are fond of non PVP and live in High Sec permanently.


They have, and you're wrong.

Didn't read the rest.



Oh, i suppose i'm talking to CCP CEO? How's family?
fuer0n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#96 - 2013-10-27 14:40:15 UTC
Richard Ramlrez wrote:
Varius Xeral wrote:
Richard Ramlrez wrote:
to do researches about who are their custumers they would realize by now that the majority of their paying susbcribers are fond of non PVP and live in High Sec permanently.


They have, and you're wrong.

Didn't read the rest.



Oh, i suppose i'm talking to CCP CEO? How's family?


your in the wrong newb guild.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#97 - 2013-10-27 14:42:21 UTC
Richard Ramlrez wrote:


If CCP has any PR and Human Resources Department to do researches about who are their custumers they would realize by now that the majority of their paying susbcribers are fond of non PVP and live in High Sec permanently.


This is your own personal pipe dream, and nothing more.

Richard Ramlrez wrote:


Make Concord react quicker, make Concord kill everyone in the same fleet that the ganker attacks, make Concord attack anyone that loots the wrecks of killed playrs if they have a huge security status.




Get the miners to actually tank their ships and the problem is solved.

It would help a lot too if they were at their keyboards and watching local itself.

The 5 times I have actually popped my fellow miners, their capsules just hung around for hours, dangling uselessly amongst the Ice.

Every. Single. One. of. them.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#98 - 2013-10-27 14:43:47 UTC
Richard Ramlrez wrote:
Varius Xeral wrote:
Richard Ramlrez wrote:
to do researches about who are their custumers they would realize by now that the majority of their paying susbcribers are fond of non PVP and live in High Sec permanently.


They have, and you're wrong.

Didn't read the rest.



Oh, i suppose i'm talking to CCP CEO? How's family?


They have done several surveys. Turns out, most people do pvp in this pvp focused game.
Rekon X
Doomheim
#99 - 2013-10-27 14:44:46 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Rekon X wrote:
Goons cower in null surrounded by their bought off alliances on all sides. They need to gank high sec ships to feel relevant. What else can they do?



We have beaten everything else out here so we are coming for the entitaled mob that is the high sec bears.


You mean you scammed it from BOB and then bought off allies.

Definition of goon - a stupid person Those who can do, those who can't spew

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#100 - 2013-10-27 14:44:53 UTC
Richard Ramlrez wrote:
Oh, i suppose i'm talking to CCP CEO? How's family?

Why do you suppose that? Is it because he's pointing out some pretty well-known conclusions from the research CCP has done?

Pretty much everything you said was wrong.