Assembly Hall

I've only been running Incursions for about two months. So I have little objective knowledge of "how things used to be". But from what little exposure I've had to inter-community politics and the infantile temper tantrums resulting from lost in-site contests, the current state of Incursions appears to me to be #BROKEN#.

In recent weeks, one or two shield Incursion communities have taken it upon themselves (for whatever reason) to ruin the gameplay for all Incursion runners by killing the Mothership as soon as it appears, lately within 12-16 hours of the Incursion first spawning, rather than leaving it up for a few days so players can get a chance to run HQ, Assault and Vanguard sites without having to travel 30+ jumps every day to get to the next spawn.

At the risk of incurring the wrath of those who claim "Eve is a sandbox! Wah, wah, wah!" whenever somebody complains about a broken game mechanic, I'd like to make a suggestion to fix the problem:

Since the primary motivation of the above referenced shield communities for popping the mom appears to be to grief the entire Incursions community as punishment for perceived offenses committed by one or more armor communities, I suggest changing the spawn mechanic to remove the detrimental effect to the entire Incursions community. This can be done by re-spawning another Incursion in the same location as the one just killed if the mom is popped less than seven days after appearing. Over-farming of the mom site can be prevented by removing the reward for completing the site if it is run within a week of the mothership's appearance. It doesn't need to be a week, just a reasonable length of time to discourage childish temper tantrums which diminish the enjoyment of the game for the greater community.

Waiting expectantly for the rants of the griefers whose entire reason for playing is to think of ways to make as many people as possible angry. :3

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never gonna happen

this made my morning. your salty incursion tears have fueled me for an entire day

i need a cigarette after that

Yeah pretty much this.

Sympathy level = 0.

Didn't expect sympathy. Did expect ridicule. Just documenting (again) that douchebaggery is rampant and encouraged in this game.

Nerf shields, that will show them !!

Destruction of the mothership does not increase or reduce risk to the fleets while running incursion sites. It simply ends the incursion. Those of us who want to participate in incursions and do not have the means of assembling a fleet capable of running the Kundalini Manifest site are cut off from running the lower tiered sites due to the almost immediate destruction of the mothership as soon as it appears. My complaint is not that fleets capable of killing the mom are killing the mom. That's the purpose of the site.

I have no facts, just hearsay to back this up, but it appears certain shield communities are intentionally running back-to-back HQ sites, not merely to reap the ISK/LP rewards for those sites, but primarily to run the red out of the bar and causing the mom to spawn, then immediately kill it. Again, not primarily to reap the ISK/LP rewards, but to deny access to that incursion by all players as soon as possible. Again, hearsay tells me that the reason they are doing this is in response to being butthurt over armor fleets occasionally contesting a site, and sometimes winning those contests.

While I can understand the irritation of having to deal with a contest when you're trying to run sites, I don't think it adheres to the spirit of the game to pitch a hissy-fit and intentionally take a dump in EVERYBODY'S oatmeal.

If true, that would be very heroic of them. I would arrange a ticker tape parade in their honor.

I really don't see why you are posting here about this.

The scorched earth policy being used is not the result of any CCP created mechanic but is the result of player actions and does not appear in any way to violate the EULA. If anything (I admit from an outsiders point of view) its refreshing to see something besides ISK farming happening in the Incursion community.

You know what it sounds like to me, from your description here?

It sounds like you engaged in some PvP - perhaps indirectly, but PvP nevertheless - with the shield fleets by contesting a site they were going for, thus harming their wallets. Now they're striking back - namely, by shutting off your farming ability as quickly as possible - and you're whining that they're being unfair.

Basically, it sounds like you're no better than a typical schoolyard bully. You pick on the other kid until he lashes back, then you run to the teacher. Only difference is that this is EVE, not the schoolyard, so there's no bull**** zero tolerance policies that get the other kid expelled for protecting himself.

We may need a number smaller than 0 here.

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