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[Request] Clean Up Corporate Permissions Interface

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Lord Zilla Waffer
The Sovereign Forge
#1 - 2013-10-25 18:03:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Lord Zilla Waffer
Any of you who are CEOs of corporations, or able to alter permissions of individuals likely feel my pain. The interface needs to be completely re-vamped. It is old, bulky, and confusing. Furthermore each and every permission tends to do nothing without the addition of other permissions, which means when making a title, before you know it the title has access to everything and you might as well have just check marked "Director".

Main changes I am looking for are listed below. The bold ones are ones I feel NEED to be done ASAP.

"Wallet Access, Divisional" -- Currently it gives the ability to withdraw and deposit isk from the account at will, but without added permissions from other categories you cannot spend money from the wallet on things for the corp. This is silly, and counter-productive and encourages people to withdraw from the account and intermingle funds. This should simply allow the player to set it as his active wallet and view current balance. No Withdraws. No Deposits. Nothing.

"Titles being a way to organize and filter permissions" -- All permissions should be in reference to other permissions found in the title to which they belong. Therefore a "Title" that contains the "Trader" permission and "Divisional Wallet: Wallet 1st" would allow you to use "Wallet Division 1" for purchases. But a second Title assigned to the same character that contained "Divisional Wallet: Wallet 2nd" and "Contract Manager" would make it so he could buy and sell with wallet 1, but not wallet 2, which he could only pay for contracts with.

"Jr. Accountant" -- Currently this allows you to view bills for the corp, but not act on them, and only if you have wallet access, which as mentioned above allows you to withdraw freely. You cannot even see the journal for the wallet. That is ridiculous. This should allow you to see the bills AND see the journal for any wallets the current title gives access to.

"Accountant" -- Currently this allows you to view journal, pay bills, and buy and sell things for the corp (It has Jr Accountant and Trader built in). This should be changed to allow you withdraw/deposit isk (see above change about removing that from default permissions of wallets) View Journal, and pay any bills with the wallet. It should NOT allow you to buy and sell things with corp cash like it currently does.

"Contract Manager" -- Currently this allows you to spend corp cash on Contracts, regardless of who they are assigned to. Also currently when a contract is assigned to the corp ANYONE in the corp may accept it. That needs to be changed. The way this should work is when a contract is assigned to the corporation ONLY people with this permission can accept it.

"Personnel Manager" -- Currently this allows you to view and accept applications. This should instead allow people to add titles to members, as well as accept new members. Meanwhile the current "Personnel Manager" roles should be built into a permission called "Recruiter"

"Hanger Access (Based at/Other/HQ) Permission Sets" -- Currently if you set someone to have access to hangers at "Based" location that location can NOT be a POS, and can NOT be HQ. That is ridiculous on both accounts. We should allow "Based at" permissions to combine with HQ permissions, and we should be able to base people at a POS. "Other" is currently the only way to give permissions at POS (and Orca/Rorqual) and it gives permissions EVERYWHERE that they are NOT based and that is NOT HQ. Honestly, "Based at" should overlap with everything and be able to be put on a POS or HQ, but I do feel "Other" should not overlap with HQ. This is so that HQ can be considered a separate entity which is a common setup.

I LOVE the ability to create dynamic queries, we need to make sure they continue to work after changes.

I will likely think of more things and post them here when I get around to it. Point Is I am sure I am not the only one upset by some of this crap.


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Lord Zilla Waffer
The Sovereign Forge
#2 - 2013-10-25 18:03:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Lord Zilla Waffer
The general look and feel of the whole thing needs a major overhaul as well. The interface needs to be streamlined and a bit more user friendly as well. Some of the specific changes I am looking for as far as the actual interface itself goes are listed below, as before Bold are what I feel most strongly about:


  • Change the check boxes under the various Hanger permissions sets to Radio style buttons. Since "Take" is just an advanced level of "Query" it makes no sense that both should be able to be checked at the same time. This will not only eliminate some confusion, but will also allow users to at a glance see which set of right the user has.

  • "Container Take" as its own category with the exact same setup as Hanger take/query is just silly as well. Remove these categories and simply add a Radio button to the right of Take that says "All." Then when you are in the permissions sections for the various Hanger permissions you can plainly see if the player can A) simply see things in a hanger B) Take things other than containers or C) Take everything including containers. Or at the very least consolidate these check boxes to the hanger screens' area.

  • Add a mouse over Tooltip for all of the permissions sets that says (Straight from CCP) EXACTLY what the various permissions are supposed to do.

  • Remove the excess unused titles and instead add a buttons at the bottom of the title section that say "New Title" and "Remove Title." If there still needs to be a hard limit of 20, then fine, give an error message when the player goes to create title 21, but there is no reason to have all those extra titles cluttering things up. This also helps so that you do not run into problems when re-purposing titles as a New Title would always be perfectly blank.

  • Change the roles section so that there is a space for duration. That is to say allow someone to receive a Role for Duration X with 0 of course being infinite. Most of the time a permission added through the roles section rather than the title section will be for one of three things: 1) To make someone a Director. 2) To temporarily add a feature for a character or 3) To give a character a slight modification from others with his title (such as the leader in his group or something of that nature).

  • Clean up the output from the Auditing Tab and allow people to see more than just the 10 or so entries it normally displays. Any of you who have ever used--or more likely, "tried" to use--this feature will see that it is more or less unusable.

  • Allow the deletion of Decorations no longer in service. I myself had an officer think it was funny to make a completely B.S. medal that has since been deleted and is no longer in use. However, every time I go to assign someone a medal, that garbage medal clutters the list. Support for discontinuing a medal needs to be implemented.

It is important we clean up the interface so that 1) People actually have the ability to make a corp with a legit Hierarchy, and more controversially 2) So people don't make stupid permission assignment mistakes by accident due to the bulky beast that is the current UI. While this will make spies actually have to work a little bit, it means anything they earned they actually were meant to earn (which should make the victory sooo much sweeter).

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Lord Zilla Waffer
The Sovereign Forge
#3 - 2013-10-25 18:04:21 UTC
=Reserved as well just in case=