Ships & Modules

So as there is going to be Amarr/Gal faction ships SOE, I think Cald/Min need some too.

But who should it be Thukker, or Mordus? So this isn't mentioned again Thukker are not in the Minmatar Republic, they live in The Great Wilderness, but sometimes might help the Reupblic out. The Thukker Mix might just be a name of a corp or might be Thukkers helping Minmatar, either way it isn't the Thukker Nation. So they could and probably do have their own ships.

First off the ship

Role Bonus:
Either 50% to missile velocity or 25% to Missile explosion radius

Caldari Bonus:
5% to rate of fire of missiles per level

Minmatar Bonus:
7.5% to shield boost per level

I would also like to see them be fast, around the speed Navy Stabber do.

I like the idea of Thukker ships, would be a whole new ship design, Mordus usually use Caldari ships so no new looking ship.

I am also going with missiles, because the pirate faction ships have no REAL missile boats. Yes yes the Worm, Gila, and Rattlesnake all use missiles, but thier real strength are in their drones, not their missiles. I think the priate faction are over do for a real missile boat.


I also had an idea for a EoM ship. As they are Amarrian ships that are just blue/grey and use hybrids. Why not have another Amarr/Caldari priate faction. These would be Amarrian hull ship (blue/grey), but use shields and hybrids.

EoM
Role Bonus:
37.5% bonus to Hybrid Turret damage

Amarr Bonus:
7.5% bonus to hybrid Turret optimal range per level

Caldari Bonus:
4% shield resistance per level

I made a mistake, fixed. And look up Equilibrium of Mankind ships. They are Amarrian ships, blue/grey color that use hybrid weapons. So you could make them Amarr/Cald, with shield and hyrbid bonuses. I'll link some of the EoM ships below. Thanks for pointing out my mistake, so I could fix it.

And this is just a fun idea, I highly doubt CCP is even gonna look at this post, or give it much thought if they do. Just throwing out ideas is all.

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/File:EOM_Death_Lord.JPG

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/File:EOM_Orge.JPG

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/File:EOM_Death_Night.JPG

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/File:EOM_Saboteur.JPG

http://www.eveonlineships.com/eve-online-ship.php?navicrip=RW9NX0h5ZHJhLmpwZw==&nn=EoM+Hydra-pirates-equilibrium+of+mankind-2521

Edit: nm

Well thank you for ruining my idea haha. No, but really thanks for the info. The only thing is SOE aren't a pirate group, but they have ships for use now. The Thukker may not be a pirate group, but they do still do pirate style actions again Amarr I'm sure. Minor faction or not, SOE aren't really a big faction either. But IF Thukker are a part of the Republic in whatever way, then I think they shouldn't have a faction ship for us. So it seems Mordus would be a good Cald/min faction for us. Does anyone have any ideas for any other factions that could be Cald/Min?

I don't really care which faction it is, I just want a pirate missile line.

Mordus seems much more likely candidate for a new set of faction ships. They could take up the role that the old guristas ships had, or they could take the current role if the guristas ships move back to being missile boats like the actual guristas NPCs.

Pros:
-Lore justification for being gallente/caldari, the Legion itself began primarily as Intaki, while Mordus himself was Caldari.
-Address disconnect between guristas NPCs and guristas ships

Cons:
-Doesn't fill the niche of caldari/minmatar faction (unless we switch guristas to caldari/minmatar? IMO this would make sense)
-They have no plexes and only one station with a single lvl 4 agent. Good luck getting any ships into circulation.
-The obvious question - do we need another line of faction ships? Many would say no.

After thinking about this, the most "neat" solution would be to move guristas to minmatar/caldari faction, and make them missile boats. Make Mordus ships gal/caldari and make them resemble the current missile/drone boats in the guristas line. Then plop down a few new stations for Mordus in Caldari space and add a few agents.

Nope I want Thukker, Mordus, or something new, not a faction already used,.

I like the warp disruptor or maybe a web bonus, but 2 shild bonuses, too OP. One shield bonues is more then enough, and a hybrid bonus and disruptor/ scramber bonus or webb bonus be ok. I do like the bonuses I gave, a optimal range bonus, damge or rate of fire and shield boost would make it a great blaster boat, and good for PvE rails too.

Pretty much, just this one has more merritt behind it as SOE ships are two armor races, and their isn't a pirarate faction with two shield races, or a true missile pirate boat out there. Sometimes things should be brought back up, because they are good ideas and should e in EVE.

First off Min are shield or armor, and are the only other race that are shield, so that why if you look at some of the pirate factions usually Min are used for being shields, there weren't any cald/min or gla/armor, because CCP didn't want to put 2 armor or shield races together. Now the SOE ships change all that, so if they are going to do a fully armor race, they need to do the same for shield too. Also Min now get shield boost bonuses and missile bonuses too. So as the ONLY two races that aren't a priate faction race (Cald/Min) they need to make a pirate faction with them. And even if Min are either shields or armor, they are still the only other shield race besides Cald, and those are the only 2 races not used for a pirate race, so it's time.

Second point is there isn't a true missile priate ship, so there needs to be at least one. If it's better or where Caldari Navy are doesn't matter, you can make them to be good at different thing the Caldari navy ships aren't. Like Caldari are good are range, not fast ships, so make these so they are fast, but also have to get in close somewhat to do real missile DPS, and you have something new. And alot of the best Caldari ships aren't missile boats, they are hybrid, like the Harpy, Eagle, Rohk. The Hawk, Cerb, Tengu and Drake (not navy Drake) are good missile boats, but they rarely can do what their hybrid brothers can. The Hawk can't do close to the DPS the Harpy can, same with the Cerb. The point here is the pirate faction races, they have great gun ships and good drone boats, but no true missile race, it's time to have at least one.

If you look at the pirate factions
Sansha Cald/Amarr Lasers and shields
Gurista (Cald/Gal) drones and shields, missile (Missile so little of the DPS though sadly, and these would do well even without missiles)
Angel (Gal/Min) Proj and shield
Guardian Angels (Min/Gal) hybrids, armor, webs
Blood Raiders (Amarr/Min) lasers, armor, neuts/nos
SOE (Amarr/Gal) Exploring, cloaky, laser, armor

So Now there needs to be a Min/Cald, and the best choice would be a true missile boat the is a shiled tank but also is faster more like Min ships speed. I think that is more then fair, now if it's Mordus, or Thukker, or whatever, I don't care. Hell the idea of Gurista being made Min/Cald and Mordus taking the Gal/Cald is even cool idea that really makes since even. So

Mordus or Thukkr or something else (Cald/Min) missiles, shield