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Shoot the dog - Odyssey launch tears revisited.
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Zen Dad
Solitary Sad Bastard In Space
#1 - 2013-10-24 21:28:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Zen Dad
There is something quite obscene now about a 4 Stab Magnate, grubbing around in a site for valueless data encryptors, that makes me want to kill the ship, the occupant, his family and his pet dog.

For truly, every man and his dog is out there 'exploring' , and this has depressed loot prices so much that even the StabMeisters are passing sites over in search of something 'valuable'

Scuse me for being a snob - but opening up exploration to the masses has DEVALUED not only the prices but the Noble Art itself.

To get the edge back - leave Odyssey update alone but put the AI rats back into ALL exploration sites. There are shed loads of unemployed rats doing sweet FA in asteroid belts all over New Eden, so why not give them a job?

This would sort the men from the boys and result in a smaller number of more determined explorers, values would rise & unused ships would be dusted off.

Exploration was made simpler to encourage more explorers ( fair enough) , but a harder environment is now needed.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#2 - 2013-10-24 21:32:11 UTC
Zen Dad wrote:
There is something quite obscene now about a 4 Stab Magnate, grubbing around in a site for valueless data encryptors, that makes me want to kill the ship, the occupant, his family and his pet dog.




I agree


It has made ganking "explorers" really easy




"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#3 - 2013-10-24 21:33:27 UTC
Eh, there's a pretty reasonable rate of return in 0.0 exploration in decent parts of null.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#4 - 2013-10-24 21:35:04 UTC
They're already doing that…

…kind of.
Alduin666 Shikkoken
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-10-24 21:37:35 UTC
Zen Dad wrote:



















^^ You see that space? That was me being able to quote the second half of your post because for whatever reason you thought it was funny to spam enter before you pushed post.

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Zen Dad
Solitary Sad Bastard In Space
#6 - 2013-10-24 21:41:58 UTC
Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:
Zen Dad wrote:





^^ You see that space? That was me being able to quote the second half of your post because for whatever reason you thought it was funny to spam enter before you pushed post.


I made a mistake - it happens to some of us....
Zen Dad
Solitary Sad Bastard In Space
#7 - 2013-10-24 21:49:50 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Eh, there's a pretty reasonable rate of return in 0.0 exploration in decent parts of null.


enjoyed the little null I have done, but jumping into 5 overlapping bubbles ruins my day - and possibly makes yours ?
Zen Dad
Solitary Sad Bastard In Space
#8 - 2013-10-24 21:56:50 UTC
Tippia wrote:
They're already doing that…

…kind of.

Serpentis Chemical lab ( for example) needs a lot of DPS before hacking. But thats a big jump up from Zero rats elsewhere?
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#9 - 2013-10-24 22:01:22 UTC
And only show cosmic signatures on the system scanner if the ship has a probe launcher fitted.

And increase the error margin for cosmic signatures to the level they would be using 1 DSP. What a joke, removing the DSP system inventory "because it's too good" only to give us the system scanner which locates every signature, leaving the "explorer" to simply drop a 2AU pinpoint formation on the desired signature.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#10 - 2013-10-24 22:07:22 UTC
Zen Dad wrote:
Tippia wrote:
They're already doing that…

…kind of.

Serpentis Chemical lab ( for example) needs a lot of DPS before hacking. But thats a big jump up from Zero rats elsewhere?

I'm thinking more of the upcoming ghost sites.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2013-10-24 22:15:47 UTC
I STILL HAVEN'T PLAYED THE NEW HACKING GAME !
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#12 - 2013-10-24 22:17:16 UTC
Make all rats in ghost sites either Incursion Sanshas or Sleepers. Also make this change in some of the more "lucrative" hacking sites.

Your Stabbed Swagnate never stood a chance.


Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Zen Dad
Solitary Sad Bastard In Space
#13 - 2013-10-24 22:20:53 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
I STILL HAVEN'T PLAYED THE NEW HACKING GAME !


RESPECT !
Bischopt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2013-10-24 22:22:22 UTC
No need to go around shooting people's pet dogs.

That's what the police is for.
Mr. Orange
Band of Freelancers
#15 - 2013-10-24 22:25:50 UTC
Ghost sites? Straight


Giveth meh a linkeh! For I R Le t0o lazy!!!
Zen Dad
Solitary Sad Bastard In Space
#16 - 2013-10-24 22:27:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Zen Dad
Your Stabbed Swagnate never stood a chance.



Whoa there...! Couple of Cruiser rats will do for starters.
Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Tactical Narcotics Team
#17 - 2013-10-24 22:28:21 UTC
Zen Dad wrote:
There is something quite obscene now about a 4 Stab Magnate, grubbing around in a site for valueless data encryptors, that makes me want to kill the ship, the occupant, his family and his pet dog.

For truly, every man and his dog is out there 'exploring' , and this has depressed loot prices so much that even the StabMeisters are passing sites over in search of something 'valuable'

Scuse me for being a snob - but opening up exploration to the masses has DEVALUED not only the prices but the Noble Art itself.

To get the edge back - leave Odyssey update alone but put the AI rats back into ALL exploration sites. There are shed loads of unemployed rats doing sweet FA in asteroid belts all over New Eden, so why not give them a job?

This would sort the men from the boys and result in a smaller number of more determined explorers, values would rise & unused ships would be dusted off.

Exploration was made simpler to encourage more explorers ( fair enough) , but a harder environment is now needed.



Warpcore Stabs stole my bike.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Zen Dad
Solitary Sad Bastard In Space
#18 - 2013-10-24 22:31:32 UTC
Tippia wrote:
They're already doing that…

…kind of.


And me - ghost sites?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#19 - 2013-10-24 22:37:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#20 - 2013-10-24 23:59:36 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
I STILL HAVEN'T PLAYED THE NEW HACKING GAME !


I HAVEN'T EITHER!!!

but really...exploration has been made basically tard mode. all that aside...the only thing that really chaps my ass about the changes is that ore sites can just be warped to by any scum now. I spent time and effort in skills for exploration for those sites. now dirty mongrels of all assortions can just pile in.

this situation is doubly intolerable because I live in a wormhole...not only does it suck that you get basically zero warning if some cloaky penis wrinkle decides to go looking for the procurer on dscan...and there is one ore site...but now invaders can just come along with no effort at all. before you'd see probes on scan and know something was amiss. but that's not the worst of it...the worst is that they can trigger all the sites with impunity...which can sometimes go days and days before seeing any new ones after they despawn timer is reached.
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