Player Features and Ideas Discussion

How long have you had this in place and why? surely the technical reason behind it can be resolved at this point.

this doesnt make any sense at this point anymore as it's at odd with the supposed sandbox style of eve.

why do we still have this limitation today and how soon can we remove it?

Main reason for its removal is that there are ships that should clearly be able to target well over 250KM that cant, which means the ships cant reach its full potential. there are also weapons that can reach over 250KM too, but since we can target anything over 250KM, those weapons cant be used to their full potential. Lastly, with the new Bastion mode, giving us increased weapon projection seems silly, especially for the Golem, where the Bastion mode is largely redundant.

So you want CCP to actually work on the engine and let us to more things? You do realize this is allot of work, and that its not a limitation set there only for your dear annoyance tho that's always a pleasure.... On the main case please keep bugs out of eve... unless i know about them..... also what other engine provides 4 000 players to shoot them selves at the same time? i think thats why you got a 250km range... maybe something else.... who knows! its a secret!

Grids are not limited, they are almost unlimited, they can be extended in farious ways, maybe what i think, is there was a bug at some point with being able to target really far, so CCP just limited it, thats what happens with allot of features in software, also, there is a certain number computers can count up to, so that might be another thing. Maybe they dint want to use less performance heavy software.

I've always assumed the targeting limit being at 250km was due to the grid always extending at least 250km from your position, so the game then doesn't have to deal with you targeting or interacting with things which could potentially be split into a different grid at the same time.

Of course this is merely assumption, it may be far from the actual reasons for implementation. It does seem a little awkward that the limit is so easy to reach in several practical situations however.


Edit- However this seems to be wrong since apparently grids can't merge and such interactions can happen anyways.

Get some real sniping happening, open the 250km limit all the way up :P

You never sit at the edge of your grid, you sit at the edge of someone else's grid.

Your grid extends to a 250 km radius from your ship, which means that you are always at the center of your grid.
If ship A sits at 249 km from you, it is on the edge of your grid, and you are on the edge of its grid.
Ship B that sits at 249 km from you but on the opposite side is also on the edge of your grid, but A and B do not see each other, as they are outside each other's grid radius, while you see both.

Maximum targeting range is only limited by the grid, if grid was extended your max targeting range would also increase.

This is a bit of a guess but here goes:

Whilst grids can be extended as many people have pointed out, the default size is a 250 km radius. If a ship burns away from you and you remain stationary then at 251 km it will drop off grid. It is probable that the 250 km targeting limit is to handle the removal of the targeting lock at that point. If the range was extended beyond 250 km then when a ship dropped off grid from you, new code would need to be added to handle the removal of the target lock or to extend the grid as currently the ship would drop from grid and remain locked.

That would be awesome.... honestly, grids on gates, stations and any other object really should be premade to avoid siturations where you have two grids really close to eachother.... a few weeks ago in amamake, one of the stations had 2 grids directly on the undock... you would basicly undock, and then 1 sec later slip into a different grid....

2hz server ticks would make the game so much more responsive, it would solve problems with ships that are basicly impossible to catch, specially now with nulified interceptors on the way.. it would make module activation delay less of a problem... you ship would respond faster to commands like, stop, accelerate, jump... change direction... all that

I think CCP should experiment some with 2hz tick rate on Sisi... to see how it would work out, specially performance wise with more people.

This limit was put in place some time ago. I forget the reason CCP gave at the time, but I do recall being locked by WRWR before this limit at around 400km. I also remember thinking it was a bad idea to restrict it so, but hay ho.