Missions & Complexes

Except salvage wrecks don't magicaly disappers after few seconds. Carbon is so fragile you know.

I'm exploring for 3 months now and the day when i don't see green dots after can decompression sound will be like second Xmas.

Makes me wonder how colorblind dudes manage to see the spew cans at all, if they even can.

im sure hes referring to the tractoring part of salvaging.

My point still stands.

Just to clarify, this IS being removed with khronos? :)

I am all for ditching the spew mechanic and making the cans un-scanable.

I also Watched the fanfest game design panel, THE only thing listed/mentioning this is the list at the start on screen where one of the items says 'Exploration - scattering mechanic' but there was no actual info in/on it.

Also if you remember the older system under radar/mag sites you used to just get a can to open after you finished hacking/analizing it, no loot loss due to loot can spew mechanics.
As someone else noted else where atm with loot can spew on top of the mini game it's esentially a case of your being forced to "play" a second mini game called catch your prizes/loot.

as for if it was removed entierly that it would be a click fest, tbt personaly I dont mind the mini game, plus given the fact you CAN fail the hack attempt you do have the chance to loose loot.

And I'd also be glad if they remove the ability to scan the cans, I've done HS/LS and null (npc and sov) exploration and noticed in HS especialy that you scan down a Radar or Mag site and invariably someones already been there used the cargo scanner and looted everything decent and just left the c**p behind.
Which with HS isn't fun or good on newbie players either, because if all their managing to find is c**p their going to just give up exploration and possibly try something else, and as we know exploration can be damn profitable (depending on your luck :)

Plus it also stops people cherry picking the good stuff and leaving the c**p behind, one of the suggestions I made a while back was have a timer on it which starts from when the first person has been in the site, the site despawns (possibly 10 mins after they leave? not sure tbt what is a good time limit wise) so that generaly rather than you come along scan down a site and then find someones cherry picked the best stuff in the site and you've wasted time scanning it down, you can just find another site fast.

In regards to Loot after the completing the mining game I would be happy, and I think most others would be as well, if it went back to the old system, Ie successful hack opens the can with the loot inside the can, rather than the damn loot can spew, so you dont loose any loot, and anything you choose to leave behind, someone else can just come upto it and loot whatever is left IF they want to, ie someone MIGHT only want say decryptors, though they would be VERY happy to snag any faction starbase mod prints, but you might not want to snag any skill books, salvage etc, so Possibly after someone warps off after opening the last can, 5 Mins? 10 Mins later a beacon spawns thats viewable on the overview that ANYONE can warp to, and can loot anything remaining, which also in LS/Null/WH space means you can actualy use that to setup ambushes etc.

As for being time consuming, to a degree it should be somewhat time consuming, not overly but still, it should take some time, in WH/Null/LS it gives people the chance to come find you, as apposed to something you can run through inside 2 mins or less.
To use a example which might get me shouted at by some, WoW for example during Classic and Burning crusade the instances took time to do as you were required generaly to use some thought IE Crowd Control etc on groups of NPCs if you didn't want to potentialy see your healer (Logi) get all the agro, get nailed and then the whole "team" dies as a result, Wrath onwards they took out NEEDING CC and from watching a friend play WoW a few weeks back (I was round theirs drinking with them at the time :) pritty much it's a case of people just in one tearing great hurry to rush through instances (regardless of normals, Heroics or raids) and do the absolute min needed to finish the instances, most of this stems from activision getting their mits on blizzard and catering to the Mass casual gamer market.
The subs on WoW balloned to belive around the 12m mark at one point and since then has drasticly shrunk, and because of the fact they catered to the mass casual market they lost a LARGE chunk of their repeat customers and also their hardcore players as a result, ie they lost a large chunk of their best customers.
I know CCP wants to expend their player base on eve etc, but they should ALWAYS be careful about their "Core" player base, because end of the day THEY are the ones who stick around for years or more, where as the mass casual crowd, turn up for a time and then dissapear onto the next "new thing" that comes along and they dont stay that long.

I can't take credit for it (pretty sure the idea is somewhere in this thread), but I like the idea of just consolidating everything into the hacking minigame. Basically, replace the "Firewall Nodes" on the hacking map with "Data/Parts/Etc Container Nodes" of the same variety that currently spew out when you beat the hack. So, if you scanned down the container before hand and it had a BPC, you're mainly looking for Data Containers. Once you find a container, your path is blocked as if it were a firewall and you'd have to engage in the minigame in order to open it and either clear your path on the map or grab the item you want.

ETA: This would be even more awesome if multiple people could do it at once.

confirmed.