EVE General Discussion

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Calculations of Costs (including internet other subscription costs) Compared to Ingame Income (from Loot, sale of mining Ore, etc) to Derive the actual amount of real Ingame Profit.

It should avoid trying to run activities in hopes of getting a profit and losing in fact 90% of the costs.
Even before costs nearing $400 to $1,000 it becomes more obvious and efficient.

This cost in turn could be used to more profitable EVE Online activities such as learning and Character Bazaar.
This later option has the benefit of taking less ingame time.

Another option is of course the purchase of limited or finite number of PLEx from the CCP store to convert to ISK (or game time).

I can add my pilots ingame time and compare the approximate time costs.


The more calculation, the more accurate becomes the ratio, but nevertheles, the derivate gives a faster idea of the proportions or ... Scope.

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I'll be working on this Calculations of Costs Compared to Ingame Income to Derive (not Derivate) the actual amount of real Ingame Profit.

I am busy with other things for now and should be back in around 4 to 5 hours to try to complete this thread or post.

I'll just throw in some numbers for now so that it is easier to see and compare.


This won't include all calculation except double the income to generate half of profit or 50% of profit due to cost margin.

Internet Cost:
$35 for a month (30 days+) is equal to 2 PLEX which is equal to 1.18m ISK (at 590m ISK per PLEX on the market in Jita IV).
That is equal to $35 for 720 hours (at 30 days x 24 hours) .
= 1.63m ISK / hr in relative equivalent costs. Or 3.26m ISK per hour = 1.63m ISK profit / hr. 4.89m ISK income - costs = 3.26m ISK profit.

If $55 for a month , it is equivalent to 3 PLEX at 1.77m ISK.
= 2.45m ISK / hr cost equivalent related to profit margin.

@ $5 / 3 hours internet costs = 42.5m ISK / hr income at 590m ISK for 1 PLEx. (4 x 3 hours = 12 hours = $20 = 1 PLEX.)

@ $40 / 25 hours internet costs = 47.2m ISK / hr income
@ $35 / 21 hours = 56.1m ISK / hr
= 1.18b ISK for 2 PLEX.

@ $100 / 100 hours = 1.77b ISK for 3 PLEX = 17.7m ISK / hr.
@ $105 / 103 hours = 3.54b ISK for 6 PLEX = 34.36m ISK / hr equivalent cost related to profit margin amount.

(Notice the margin change to around 50% or double... Realize that it is not only the related equivalent income but also includes the relative costs.)

@ $210 / 206 hours = 7.08b ISK for 12 PLEX = 34.36m ISK / hr.
@ $490 / 459 hours = 16.52b ISK for 28 PLEX = 35.99m ISK / hr.

Also note that the 17.7m ISK / hr in 100 hours is not only the cost but also the related equivalent income.
That also does not include the EVE Pilot cost of time in game time equivalent costs like PLEX use for game time.
Once those costs are added in the equation, the total profit will be less and total costs higher.
It will also increase the income in ISK per hour required to achieve the same results.

And.....?

Yes, I wish too.
I was going to put it in Market Discussion.
However, it included lots of internet costs which are not ingame.
I figured would not be an EVE Market Discussion.

I would like to link to it in Market Discussion as it does relate to the EVE Online ingame income and profit.
That is also related to small and large business.

I didn't have the time to come back from my other business yet and almost had to go to work for 4 hours or more.
I'll be back in a few hours.
I just fixed 2 or 3 characters and bought a Mining Foreman Mindlink.

I too can use a **** load of math to make myself seem intelligent.


The number of ****s I give = 0

The number of people who think theyre the space rainman = 5000 (approx.)

Now, if you take the number of ****s I give times the number of space rainmen, you once again arrive at the number of ****s I give.

Math proof: 5000 x 0 = 0.

Yeah! Math *****!

"Derivate" is typically a noun. "Derive" works better and makes you look smarter.

What in the actual **** is the point of this ****?

I will refrain from derailing your thread.
Weirdly enough, i sense a smart person in you. ^_^

None of this matters at the edge of scram range. But please continue.

I just realised, this is a stealth "nerf trading" post.

THE POINT, MAN. GET TO IT.