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Dev Blog: No Honor Among Thieves - Siphon Units in Rubicon

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Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#541 - 2013-10-18 01:07:19 UTC
As a member of Goonswarm, I want to state that I am completely opposed to people pouring gasoline over themselves and then lighting matches. You should not do this, it is bad for you and I will be very upset if you do it. I am a goon who opposes self-immolation in all its forms.

So good luck with that.
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#542 - 2013-10-18 01:11:05 UTC
HAHAHA STOOPID GOONIE IM ON FIRE AND YOU CANT STOP ME

Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal
Thirdsin
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#543 - 2013-10-18 01:14:02 UTC
From the sounds of it, CCP has prioritized roll out a new toy they already know will be broken over addressing content already in the game.
Guess its easier to add shiny things to distract from the other broken toys? There must be some broader plan we just aren't privy to.

Concept sounds fun, as detailed I see it being too easy and inexpensive to abuse. Really easy. Now we wait for some group to show just how disruptive and poorly implemented this will be. I wonder who it will be... hmm.



Screwing with the API is bad. This should not happen. I don't like where its going.
Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#544 - 2013-10-18 01:16:02 UTC
Varius Xeral wrote:
HAHAHA STOOPID GOONIE IM ON FIRE AND YOU CANT STOP ME


Post with your main, Thích Quảng Đức.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#545 - 2013-10-18 01:21:15 UTC
Varius Xeral wrote:
Upon a little reflection, this is so benign in its stupidity that i can't really muster the ~care.

After the first couple months of novelty wear off, this feature will be largely unused by anything resembling a guerrilla force, and become yet another tool for the biggest and most organized blocs to structure grief the other side into not logging in for sov wars. If anything, it will hasten a meaningful nullsec fix by compounding the already existing problems with sov gameplay. In the meantime I'll be getting filthy rich #jitafourtyfour

Structure grief? I have no idea what you are talking about ...

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Kropotkin
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#546 - 2013-10-18 01:25:24 UTC
IrJosy wrote:
... If goons siphon all of your moon income. ...

I do not understand? How they can siphon all? You can pick up as easily as they, no? So you get something?
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#547 - 2013-10-18 01:28:09 UTC
Kropotkin wrote:
IrJosy wrote:
... If goons siphon all of your moon income. ...

I do not understand? How they can siphon all? You can pick up as easily as they, no? So you get something?


Of course you can get something but you are guaranteed to lose 20% each cycle. I sense a new skill approaching.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Rythm
True Power Team
#548 - 2013-10-18 01:31:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Rythm
Would be nice to reduce syphon cycle and allow targeting of specific silos, so that refined materials will not be safe from the theft.

At least a reason to scan whs and steal all polymers =)
Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#549 - 2013-10-18 01:34:13 UTC
Goon tears, best tears

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Sir Prometeus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#550 - 2013-10-18 01:34:51 UTC
I wonder how are you planning to recover the moon-goo you are stealing. I mean, deploying one is easy, just throw it, no anchoring time. However, if you are stealing from a deathstar, how are you going to put the loot into your indy and warp out before you die?

Anyway, spamming them over other alliance's poses would be enough grief since they can wast 20% of the input, it doesn't matter if they recover the stolen goods.

Also, filling them with crap is not possible, unless your reactors are filled with it and they steal the ****.
Utopa Kashuken
Eos Tribe
#551 - 2013-10-18 01:49:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Utopa Kashuken
Quote:
Anybody can access the storage and take from it.


Well, then why POS owners have to destroy the unit? Just go and take it back. Big smile
Sir Prometeus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#552 - 2013-10-18 01:56:52 UTC
Utopa Kashuken wrote:
Quote:
Anybody can access the storage and take from it.


Well, then why POS owners have to destroy the unit? Just go and take it back. Big smile


20% wastage factor, not something pos owners want
M1k3y Koontz
House of Musashi
Stay Feral
#553 - 2013-10-18 01:58:54 UTC
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
As a member of Goonswarm, I want to state that I am completely opposed to people pouring gasoline over themselves and then lighting matches. You should not do this, it is bad for you and I will be very upset if you do it. I am a goon who opposes self-immolation in all its forms.

So good luck with that.


That explains why, as a member of Goonswarm, you are so vehemently against these siphons. After all, supporting them would hurt Goon moon profits. So soon after grinding 3 regions with fleets of stealth bombers too, such a shame.


Zappity wrote:
Kropotkin wrote:
IrJosy wrote:
... If goons siphon all of your moon income. ...

I do not understand? How they can siphon all? You can pick up as easily as they, no? So you get something?


Of course you can get something but you are guaranteed to lose 20% each cycle. I sense a new skill approaching.


Not another skill CCP, c'mon. There are already so many semi-useless skills Roll

How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp.
Utopa Kashuken
Eos Tribe
#554 - 2013-10-18 01:59:19 UTC
Sir Prometeus wrote:
Utopa Kashuken wrote:
Quote:
Anybody can access the storage and take from it.


Well, then why POS owners have to destroy the unit? Just go and take it back. Big smile


20% wastage factor, not something pos owners want


Oops. Shocked
M1k3y Koontz
House of Musashi
Stay Feral
#555 - 2013-10-18 02:00:34 UTC
Sir Prometeus wrote:
Utopa Kashuken wrote:
Quote:
Anybody can access the storage and take from it.


Well, then why POS owners have to destroy the unit? Just go and take it back. Big smile


20% wastage factor, not something pos owners want


Better than 100% (simply blowing it up)

How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp.
Kira Coldblood
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#556 - 2013-10-18 02:01:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Kira Coldblood
ERASE
Utopa Kashuken
Eos Tribe
#557 - 2013-10-18 02:05:26 UTC
Quote:
The name of the player that deployed the siphon unit is visible in Show Info.


If not visible, more fun. Isn't it? Blink
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#558 - 2013-10-18 02:11:35 UTC
All the siphons !

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Sir Prometeus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#559 - 2013-10-18 02:13:23 UTC
Utopa Kashuken wrote:
Quote:
The name of the player that deployed the siphon unit is visible in Show Info.


If not visible, more fun. Isn't it? Blink


Considering the access free-for-all and the presumably low skill requisites, alters dropping hundreds of syphons will be common sight in the near future.
EI Digin
irc.zulusquad.org
#560 - 2013-10-18 02:18:03 UTC
Please don't introduce a passive mechanic to combat a passive mechanic.