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Possible exploit? or BUG? sharing killrights. [UPDATED]

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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#21 - 2013-10-17 14:26:40 UTC
CCP Paradox wrote:
Domanique Altares wrote:
NickyYo wrote:
Cannibal Kane wrote:
The kill you had in low sec would have generated a Killright against you. It is obvious he made it public meaning anybody can activate it at any time.

I have killed many people I see fighting in duels and then activating the killright on them so they can die horribly before they are able to doc. Even followed them into missions waiting for the right time activating it in the mission and killing them.

Even in your loss mail in the game. Their will be a red bar with ziirn face stating the people killed you on behalf of Ziirn.

So no it is not an exploit. You just did not understand how the KR system works. Or prolly do and this is just trolling which would be consistent with your normal forum posting behavior.


No need to defend your reply kane, cheers for the reply :) i am infact clueless on this mechanic atm. Because the guy who it was on behalf of did not have kill rights on me inititially becasue ive never done anything to him at all. Thats what i dont get.

There is a bug of some sort in the KR system where it misreports who the kill was on behalf of. I had this happen the other day. Dunno why or how it happens.


I've never seen any bug report or even talk about this, but I am confident that the Killed on Behalf of will always display the original owner of the Kill Right. Someone else may have activated it, but it will always show the owner of the kill right in the kill report.

I'll have to see if I can dig up the KM for you, but I had a fight the other day that had some wonky nonsense in regards to he killright. Normally I pay no attention to such things as I live in lowsec, but this one struck me as odd.
Darkblad
Doomheim
#22 - 2013-10-17 14:39:06 UTC
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19870462 Podkill (aggression is enough for a kill right, anyway) and lesss than 30 days ago.
So my question: Does your loss state "On behalf of Havis N Lemmont"?

NPEISDRIP

Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#23 - 2013-10-17 15:42:40 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
The other day i agreed to a 1v1 fight vargur vs vargur all was going fine and i was tanking, I'm honerable and wouldn't have killed him.. Anyways it ended up with me getting ganked..

3 other players were able to shoot me.. the killmail says i was killed on behalf off ... but the guy who it was on behalf of ive never shot ever!! or killed him or stole a can... NOTHING! theres no connection at all between me and that character..

Somehow these people got killrights on me through the kill on behalf of someone mechanic...

Anyone have any ideas, ive asked many people and they dont know how its possible either..



Back again Nicky? I thought they perma-banned you last time....Cool

Signature removed - CCP Eterne

NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#24 - 2013-10-17 17:27:30 UTC
The guy who the kill was on behalf was is : Caito Sicarius

IT just does'nt make sense.

..

Ziirn
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#25 - 2013-10-17 17:58:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Ziirn
Cannibal Kane wrote:
The kill you had in low sec would have generated a Killright against you. It is obvious he made it public meaning anybody can activate it at any time.

I have killed many people I see fighting in duels and then activating the killright on them so they can die horribly before they are able to doc. Even followed them into missions waiting for the right time activating it in the mission and killing them.

Even in your loss mail in the game. Their will be a red bar with ziirn face stating the people killed you on behalf of Ziirn.

So no it is not an exploit. You just did not understand how the KR system works. Or prolly do and this is just trolling which would be consistent with your normal forum posting behavior.


Uhm what do I have to do with this? :O

edit: You prob just using my name since it's awsome. It's ok!
Smohq Anmirorz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#26 - 2013-10-17 18:15:13 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
The guy who the kill was on behalf was is : Caito Sicarius

IT just does'nt make sense.


Instead of trying to convince us all and saying it doesn't make sense, could you please just wait until you get home and then put up the links? You will get a much more relevant discussion, I think.
destiny2
Decaying Rocky Odious Non Evil Stupid Inane Nobody
Rogue Drone Recovery Syndicate
#27 - 2013-10-17 18:21:51 UTC
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=20809916

alls i can see is this from when i searched your KB<
Baggo Hammers
#28 - 2013-10-17 18:27:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Baggo Hammers
Anything that criminally flags you creates a killright.

If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there.

Ziirn
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#29 - 2013-10-17 18:28:31 UTC
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=20646859

The guy who had a killright on ya. So you def killed him in lowsec but that shouldn't generate a kill right (i believe, correct me if I'm wrong).
Maybe you tried going for his pod?
Altessa Post
Midnight special super sexy
#30 - 2013-10-17 18:39:30 UTC
Destroying a ship in low sec creates a kill right. To avoid kill rights you must do your pirating in 0.0

On the internet, you can be whatever you want to be. It is amazing that so many people chose to be stupid.

Sipphakta en Gravonere
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2013-10-17 18:47:01 UTC
Altessa Post wrote:
Destroying a ship in low sec creates a kill right. To avoid kill rights you must do your pirating in 0.0


Ship killing in low sec should not award kill rights since Retribution. To quote http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/73446

Quote:
Kill Rights will now be created at the same time a Criminal flag is put on a player, but only for attacking in hi sec or podding in low sec.
Lady Naween
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2013-10-18 05:45:02 UTC
Altessa Post wrote:
Destroying a ship in low sec creates a kill right. To avoid kill rights you must do your pirating in 0.0


LOL no it doesnt.
Smohq Anmirorz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#33 - 2013-10-18 07:01:47 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
it was honourable, i didnt fit a warp scram lol.
Anyways, nope i was docked for a good 1 hour before i agreed to it, i stole nothing at all. it was all planned.

The guy who made the killrights available ive never seen before!! it just doesnt make sense...



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Daisai
Daisai Investments.
#34 - 2013-10-18 09:27:39 UTC
Can you show a screenshot of the ingame killmail of your loss?
Darkblad
Doomheim
#35 - 2013-10-18 12:02:09 UTC
Now that the kill right owner is known (Caito Sicarius) and now that there's ... evidence that you destroyed that player's ship in lowsec, the next step is to assume (sorry) that you activated an aggressive module against that player's pod.
You don't need to destroy his pod (which yields a kill mail). Illegal aggression is enough.

Check your notifications (unread and read ones, in the EVE Mail window, second tab), there should be notifications that this kill right got created - and made public.

NPEISDRIP

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