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REPORT: Wreckage of Heth’s escort found in Hakonen

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TomHorn
Horn Brothers Holdings Inc.
#1 - 2013-10-17 11:35:16 UTC  |  Edited by: TomHorn
Aivonen – The Caldari Navy has recovered the wreckage of the fugitive fleet believed to have been escorting Tibus Heth in Aivonen early this morning

source http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/report-wreckage-of-heths-escort-found-in-hakonen/

Provists are heading to Aivonen to start a search and rescue mission
Kyllsa Siikanen
Tuonelan Virta
#2 - 2013-10-17 11:40:42 UTC
Queue Diana Kim in 3...2...

“Crying is all right in its own way while it lasts. But you have to stop sooner or later, and then you still have to decide what to do.” 

― C.S. Lewis 
Gwen Ikiryo
Alexylva Paradox
#3 - 2013-10-17 11:56:41 UTC
The weapons suggest Amarr or Khanid Navy, Blood Raiders, or Sansha's Nation forces.

...All of which have sort of horrible, if different, implications.
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#4 - 2013-10-17 12:02:47 UTC
Gwen Ikiryo wrote:
The weapons suggest Amarr or Khanid Navy, Blood Raiders, or Sansha's Nation forces.

...All of which have sort of horrible, if different, implications.

Or anyone else... it's not like this weapon system is a rare thing.

This event decrease chance of us hearing about Heth ever again... maybe... who know.

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude
Gwen Ikiryo
Alexylva Paradox
#5 - 2013-10-17 12:10:49 UTC
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
Or anyone else... it's not like this weapon system is a rare thing.

This event decrease chance of us hearing about Heth ever again... maybe... who know.


I was speaking in terms of the fleet standard, sir. Though you're right that it could have been an independent party, such as a group of Capsuleers.

Heavens forfend, yet though... To be honest, that would probably be the best outcome. Considering that he'd simply likely show up for sale in Jita 4-4 a week from now.
Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#6 - 2013-10-17 12:31:01 UTC
Speculation really at this point, but it looks more like whoever did this was looking to acquire Heth and the Dragonaurs for their own personal means, that or it's a really good cover up.


Either way, it's certainly not an ideal scenario for those who wanted to bring him in.

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.
Constantin Baracca
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#7 - 2013-10-17 12:42:14 UTC
So many questions, but the fact that there was no crew is sort of a major problem in this regard. If it were an Amarrian party, you would think they would have let the dead of heathens lie.

If it really was Heth and this isn't a massive cover-up, there is only one group I can think of that uses energy weapons and collects the living and dead crews of the ships they attack. Perhaps the rest of Heth is in a decanter somewhere in Delve.

"What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"

-Matthew 16:26
Alizabeth Vea
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-10-17 12:46:32 UTC
Mr. Heth,
Should you desire to seek sanctuary in Deklein, contact me. I would be more than happy to arrange this. We also have property for rent in several other regions of space far from empire control.

Why would I do this? Because $#!& TEST, that's why.

Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.

"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I

Virtue. Valor. Victory.
Solarienne
Hrimdraugar
#9 - 2013-10-17 12:50:28 UTC
Well, this is all very interesting. Couldn't have happened to a nicer person.

PY-RE Combat Pilot
Laurentis Thiesant
Institute of Social Development
#10 - 2013-10-17 13:00:39 UTC
Kyllsa Siikanen wrote:
Queue Diana Kim in 3...2...


Oh this will be so good.
Ollie Rundle
#11 - 2013-10-17 13:00:58 UTC
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
Gwen Ikiryo wrote:
The weapons suggest Amarr or Khanid Navy, Blood Raiders, or Sansha's Nation forces.

...All of which have sort of horrible, if different, implications.

Or anyone else... it's not like this weapon system is a rare thing.

This event decrease chance of us hearing about Heth ever again... maybe... who know.


To add some weight to Ms. Ikiryo's speculation, Ishaga constellation in Black Rise has been the focus of an incursion by Nation forces for approximately the last 24hrs.

When taken in consideration with the types of weapon systems used, the lack of any survivors on board and the fact that no life pods or other escape mechanisms were utilised I'd say that - while still speculative - Ms. Ikiryo's suggestion is rapidly becoming one of the likely explanations.
Esan Vartesa
Samarkand Financial
#12 - 2013-10-17 13:49:25 UTC
Gwen Ikiryo wrote:
The weapons suggest ... Khanid Navy...


We use missiles!

MISSILES!!!
Anslo
Scope Works
#13 - 2013-10-17 13:50:24 UTC
Hey, he shot us first OK? Not like we were hunting him...at all...yeah.

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Gwen Ikiryo
Alexylva Paradox
#14 - 2013-10-17 14:13:33 UTC
Esan Vartesa wrote:
Gwen Ikiryo wrote:
The weapons suggest ... Khanid Navy...


We use missiles!

MISSILES!!!


Oh!

How careless. Pardon me. That escaped my mind at the time of writing.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#15 - 2013-10-17 15:14:00 UTC
I hate to raise this point, but if Heth HAD made a deal that guaranteed his safe passage to parts dubious, the escort fleet would have been 'surplus to requirements' and OPSEC would have required that it be dealt with.

One of the perils of serving a tyrant, I suppose.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#16 - 2013-10-17 15:57:47 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
I hate to raise this point, but if Heth HAD made a deal that guaranteed his safe passage to parts dubious, the escort fleet would have been 'surplus to requirements' and OPSEC would have required that it be dealt with.

One of the perils of serving a tyrant, I suppose.


While maskirovka is a valuable tool in the intelligence game, the presence of Heth's blood, a prized pocketwatch (of all things), signs of firefights, energy weapons...

Often, the simplest explanation is best. Unless we receive evidence to the contrary, Heth has likely been seized by the Nation.

I'm uncertain how I feel about this.

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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#17 - 2013-10-17 16:36:48 UTC
This is a curious development indeed... Considering the circumstances and nation activity in the sector, their involvment is likely... We shouldn't rule out others however as it can be a play to blame Nation. Hence, stay on your guard and check for any strange activity in Black Rise.

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Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#18 - 2013-10-17 17:09:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Katrina Oniseki
It is also known that the Sisters of EVE use energy weapons and tend to disable hostile vessels for humanitarian reasons, rather than outright destroying them.

It could be possible that Heth was detained by the SoE for various reasons.

Katrina Oniseki
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#19 - 2013-10-17 17:10:03 UTC
Jandice Ymladris wrote:
This is a curious development indeed... Considering the circumstances and nation activity in the sector, their involvment is likely... We shouldn't rule out others however as it can be a play to blame Nation. Hence, stay on your guard and check for any strange activity in Black Rise.


So, state Normal, situation Unchanged?

Great. I'd love to actually sleep in a bed sometime this week.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#20 - 2013-10-17 17:12:18 UTC
I wonder if Kim will ever be able to get over the (apparent) loss of her Dear Leader?

At any rate I'm buying shares of companies that produce ice cream, liquor and ammunition. I can see Kim holing up in her quarters with a few hundred gallons of rocky road, booze and enough guns to arm a small rebellion in an effort to console herself.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
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