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Major Warp Speed problems

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Aina Stormborn
State War Academy
Caldari State
#321 - 2013-11-04 19:21:28 UTC
Chandaris wrote:
I love how ever person comes to this threat touting 'HTFU' 'LOL PIRATES GON CRY TEARS' HAHA FU SUPERCAPS' until they actually log into sisi, see it for themselves and realize how broken it is.


nonono, I don´t think it´s so broken, it Needs some tweaking and it will be awesome.
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#322 - 2013-11-04 19:23:44 UTC
Well I never said it needed to be eliminated either. New warp speeds are great.

things just should not be able to appear on grid before they appear on overview. Exit times should be adjussted so even the fastest ships still have a 1 to 2 server tick slide in. or can't take an action until that tick has occured.
Aina Stormborn
State War Academy
Caldari State
#323 - 2013-11-04 19:28:53 UTC
Chandaris wrote:
Well I never said it needed to be eliminated either. New warp speeds are great.

things just should not be able to appear on grid before they appear on overview. Exit times should be adjussted so even the fastest ships still have a 1 to 2 server tick slide in. or can't take an action until that tick has occured.



see, that sounds way better than your whining before, they will fix that, I am so sure about it. Don´t feed tears to the bears :D
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#324 - 2013-11-04 19:31:52 UTC
My whining before?

Maybe you should go re-read my earlier posts. this time try to take your LOL PIRATE TEARS glasses off.
Aina Stormborn
State War Academy
Caldari State
#325 - 2013-11-04 19:36:53 UTC
Chandaris wrote:
My whining before?

Maybe you should go re-read my earlier posts. this time try to take your LOL PIRATE TEARS glasses off.


no? #283, 294,.... sounds like whining, but okay, sorry, didn´t want to offend you.
seth Hendar
I love you miners
#326 - 2013-11-05 09:15:29 UTC
Chandaris wrote:
I love how ever person comes to this threat touting 'HTFU' 'LOL PIRATES GON CRY TEARS' HAHA FU SUPERCAPS' until they actually log into sisi, see it for themselves and realize how broken it is.

pretty much.

personnaly, i'd say keep it, i'll be on the brighter side of it (i.e. mostly the one actually targeting you before you even see me on grid), and trust me, i'll over use it.Twisted

still, this remains a broken mechanic, but it is not like we warned about it!

CCP should know when a mechanic is broken when even those who will benefit of it publicly state it is OP.....
Pinky Feldman
Amarrian Vengeance
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#327 - 2013-11-05 09:18:35 UTC
I love these changes. The fact that they have the potential to upset the core EVE meta so significantly is extremely exciting, similar to how the nano-nerf fundamentally changed the way that EVE was played.

EVE is a game that has always awarded people who have been able to innovate and without changes like these, it devolves into a predictable game that you play in the background while playing other games because you already have done everything or know how something will end before it happens.

The moar you cry the less you pee
CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#328 - 2013-11-05 15:11:49 UTC
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#329 - 2013-11-05 15:50:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Chandaris
Good changes. However I'm kinda annoyed that the warp speed rigs will affect CPU grid. that will eliminate/change their use from a lot of doctrines that would have used them otherwise. (for example the awesome 4 rep scimi one of our guys cooked up that warped as fast as assault frigs for shield AF doctrines)

Other than that, +1
Dirk Action
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#330 - 2013-11-05 16:08:54 UTC
Chandaris wrote:
Good changes. However I'm kinda annoyed that the warp speed rigs will affect CPU grid. that will eliminate/change their use from a lot of doctrines that would have used them otherwise. (for example the awesome 4 rep scimi one of our guys cooked up that warped as fast as assault frigs for shield AF doctrines)

Other than that, +1


that is pretty busted and deserved a nerf~
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#331 - 2013-11-05 16:14:09 UTC
Dirk Action wrote:
Chandaris wrote:
Good changes. However I'm kinda annoyed that the warp speed rigs will affect CPU grid. that will eliminate/change their use from a lot of doctrines that would have used them otherwise. (for example the awesome 4 rep scimi one of our guys cooked up that warped as fast as assault frigs for shield AF doctrines)

Other than that, +1


that is pretty busted and deserved a nerf~


Do does your massively lame NOFUNALLOWED ishtar fleet, and you guys shitting supercapitals all over new eden

*shrugs*
seth Hendar
I love you miners
#332 - 2013-11-06 10:00:25 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
This post will probably be relevant to your interests.Blink

nice change, now this is gonna be awesome, without being broken, thank you CCP Fozzie
Silent Zephyr
Perkone
Caldari State
#333 - 2013-11-08 20:39:47 UTC
I think the instant deceleration is a good idea. They call it a warp bubble "collapse" after all, not a warp bubble "fade away". However, aesthetically, I don't think it will be pleasing to the eyes to suddenly come to a full stop from max warp speed. There probably ought to be a partial deceleration down to some point at which the ship then instantly stops. For example, perhaps a deceleration down to 10,000km/s, after which the ship instantly drops out of warp. Additionally, this may still allow for dscans, albeit a more narrow chance.

If interdictors are a problem (and to me it seems more realistic anyways to do this), interdictor fields should need a warm up period of about 10 seconds before they activate. Perhaps only after warping do they require this?
Spc One
The Chodak
Void Alliance
#334 - 2013-11-10 11:48:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Spc One
If i warp to the mission with acceleration gate in my paladin I end up 40km from the gate.
Is this intended or a bug ?
seth Hendar
I love you miners
#335 - 2013-11-12 08:56:51 UTC
Spc One wrote:
If i warp to the mission with acceleration gate in my paladin I end up 40km from the gate.
Is this intended or a bug ?

this seems to be a bug which hit from time to time, where you warp to something (fleetmate / bookmark / whatever) and end up far from it.


it happen less lately, but right after odyssey it was pretty often.

and for those who wil say "check your default warp distance" it was set to 0, tried to warp several time in a row to a POS bokmark, from station, did the back and forth 10-15 time, and ended up at 20/50/70 several times.

this still happen sometimes, but really not often.

the opposite is also true, warp at 100 / 70, end up at 0
Spc One
The Chodak
Void Alliance
#336 - 2013-11-26 06:50:29 UTC
Question for CCP.
Are we going to see shuttle "Leopard" in game ?

Type ID 33513

it can warp with 20 AU/s

here's ingame list:
http://xi-networks.net/eve.htm

Izzy Ankhavees
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#337 - 2013-11-26 11:55:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Izzy Ankhavees
CCP Fozzie wrote:
We're aware of this behaviour and of your objections.

I disagree with your assessment that this is a major problem, but you are of course welcome to your opinion. We'll be keeping a close eye on this both before launch and after.

I suggest having subcaps that can kill dictors with you.


That concludes the matter. All that comes after is whining.

I wonder what is the issue with not being able to be the "super" does to people. Damn. Some egos around here are bigger than a freighter cargohold.

[i]"Perfect crimes do not exist, for to be a crime, it must be proven." "Make the body count unacceptable to ensure your own safety." "Basic rule of covert ops: let someone else do your dirty work.[/i]"
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#338 - 2013-11-26 20:20:41 UTC
Izzy Ankhavees wrote:
That concludes the matter. All that comes after is whining


It appears you missed the part where they acnowledged it was broken, and lowered overall top warp speed, and deceleration rate to 'fix' what we were 'whining' about.

Anyways, IMO after several days of playing with high warp speed ships and gangs, you did a great job CCP. These changes are nothing but good for the game, have shaken up the meta a fair bit without breaking the game.

Good job.

Assault Frig gangs FTW ;)