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Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
#41 - 2013-10-17 11:42:32 UTC
Fey Ivory wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
what's the difference between using a scam alt to avoid metagame consequences for your actions, including bounties, and using a forum alt to avoid the same?


The difrence is in my opion, the forum has nothing to do with actual isk gain etc, inside of EvE, its a forum for adult people to discuss ideas, opinions etc regarding eve, BUT what you do inside the game actually affects the isk gain, game balance, thats the difrence

Learn to make a distinction between inside a game and reallife ;P

i've made plenty of business deals via these forums. they affect isk gain. there is even a ******* trade section dude
Jake Devlin
F.U.N. Inc.
The Ancients.
#42 - 2013-10-17 12:11:03 UTC
Reputation is important in EvE therefore what you post on the forum matters as that will contribute to that reputation.
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#43 - 2013-10-17 12:23:35 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
i don't like your post and want to bounty you but you appear to be a forum alt


you are allowed to have 3 characters on the same account, which of them you use to post on the forums with is entirely your business.

recycling characters to get an in-game advantage may or may not be illegal, but it's an attempt to avoid the action/consequence part of eve, and should not be allowed.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
Rekon X
Doomheim
#44 - 2013-10-17 12:23:42 UTC
Money Makin Mitch wrote:
post with your main


Yea, like anyone can't spend 5 minutes training Corp Management and buy a corp for 15k isk.

That makes you a main.

Definition of goon - a stupid person Those who can do, those who can't spew
Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#45 - 2013-10-17 12:26:14 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
Iudicium Vastus wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
what's the difference between using a scam alt to avoid metagame consequences for your actions, including bounties, and using a forum alt to avoid the same?


Because on forums we have nothing to gain, but while contributing to the proper discourse of discussion and growth.

i have nothing to gain if i choose to start suicide ganking pods on jita gate, but i can't biomass the thrasher alt

besides the possible gain, this is one game, and we post with ingame characters. you're still avoiding ingame consequences by rolling a disposable alt for forum posting, as with scammers avoiding ingame consequences by rolling scammer alts


pedantic internet forum lawyering - check
semi-literate garbage posing as intelligent discourse - check

congratulations you win a prize
Alduin666 Shikkoken
Doomheim
#46 - 2013-10-17 12:29:26 UTC
Rekon X wrote:
Money Makin Mitch wrote:
post with your main


Yea, like anyone can't spend 5 minutes training Corp Management and buy a corp for 15k isk.

That makes you a main.



Wut™

Your main is the toon you spend the most time on in game, no amount of SP or ISK changes that fact.

Also if you are trying to be sarcastic the OP already admitted that this his/her forum alt.

Honor is a fools prize. [I]Glory is of no use to the dead.[/I]

Be a man! Post with your main! ~Vas'Avi Community Manager
Fey Ivory
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2013-10-17 12:48:36 UTC
Money Makin Mitch wrote:
Fey Ivory wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
what's the difference between using a scam alt to avoid metagame consequences for your actions, including bounties, and using a forum alt to avoid the same?


The difrence is in my opion, the forum has nothing to do with actual isk gain etc, inside of EvE, its a forum for adult people to discuss ideas, opinions etc regarding eve, BUT what you do inside the game actually affects the isk gain, game balance, thats the difrence

Learn to make a distinction between inside a game and reallife ;P

i've made plenty of business deals via these forums. they affect isk gain. there is even a ******* trade section dude


And i can talk to my friend at his house, in real life about this thing i "will" do, its still real life and changes nothing inside the game, untill either logs in and does said actions in game... Real life and a game
Rekon X
Doomheim
#48 - 2013-10-17 12:51:55 UTC
Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:
Rekon X wrote:
Money Makin Mitch wrote:
post with your main


Yea, like anyone can't spend 5 minutes training Corp Management and buy a corp for 15k isk.

That makes you a main.



Wut™

Your main is the toon you spend the most time on in game, no amount of SP or ISK changes that fact.

Also if you are trying to be sarcastic the OP already admitted that this his/her forum alt.


I'm not talking about the OP. I know it's hard for some to follow a thread.

Must be another alt.

Definition of goon - a stupid person Those who can do, those who can't spew
Alduin666 Shikkoken
Doomheim
#49 - 2013-10-17 12:54:41 UTC
Rekon X wrote:
Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:
Rekon X wrote:
Money Makin Mitch wrote:
post with your main


Yea, like anyone can't spend 5 minutes training Corp Management and buy a corp for 15k isk.

That makes you a main.



Wut™

Your main is the toon you spend the most time on in game, no amount of SP or ISK changes that fact.

Also if you are trying to be sarcastic the OP already admitted that this his/her forum alt.


I'm not talking about the OP. I know it's hard for some to follow a thread.

Must be another alt.


Also must be hard to read Cool

Honor is a fools prize. [I]Glory is of no use to the dead.[/I]

Be a man! Post with your main! ~Vas'Avi Community Manager
Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
#50 - 2013-10-17 13:33:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Money Makin Mitch
Rekon X wrote:
Money Makin Mitch wrote:
post with your main


Yea, like anyone can't spend 5 minutes training Corp Management and buy a corp for 15k isk.

That makes you a main.



this is indeed a main. as i am a trader, i spend the majority of my time in Eve logged into this toon. i say and do what i want, not just on the forums, but within the in-game trade channels, etc., on this toon. i don't need to hide behind an alt when i post here.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#51 - 2013-10-17 15:01:38 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
anyway: impunity of scammers against actions of other players is completely against nature of this game "you cannot be immune to the actions of other people"

i ignored the rest of your post, i'll just leave this bit since it is equally applicable to forum alts. thinking back, i don't even think what you can gain with the alt is important - there's no argument for it being an important difference. what's important is the fact i might want to make you suffer a bounty or block you for whatever it is you're doing or not doing.
Fey Ivory wrote:
The difrence is in my opion, the forum has nothing to do with actual isk gain etc, inside of EvE, its a forum for adult people to discuss ideas, opinions etc regarding eve, BUT what you do inside the game actually affects the isk gain, game balance, thats the difrence

Learn to make a distinction between inside a game and reallife ;P

incorrect. the forum is a place for characters to communicate, which is why you post with a character and not an account. the forum is not real life, either. i can certainly make that distinction.
dexington wrote:
you are allowed to have 3 characters on the same account, which of them you use to post on the forums with is entirely your business.

recycling characters to get an in-game advantage may or may not be illegal, but it's an attempt to avoid the action/consequence part of eve, and should not be allowed.

we're all against recycling for ingame advantage, of course. but bountying and blocking are also avoided via forum alts. it doesn't matter why i want to bounty the guy - if he does something in eve, including on the forum which is part of eve, i might want to bounty him. if scammers should not be able to use alts to avoid metagame consequence, then neither should forum users be able to use an alt to avoid metagame consequence.

personally, i'm fine with forum alts. but they're the same deal as scam alts. tolerate both or neither.
Kitty Bear wrote:
pedantic internet forum lawyering - check
semi-literate garbage posing as intelligent discourse - check

congratulations you win a prize

this means i'm right and i get a prize
Spurty
#52 - 2013-10-17 15:08:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Commander Spurty
Posting in a 'Typing in local should be banned until you're at least [THIS TALL]' stealth nerf thread.

Sort of like the idea of having to train up a communications skill inorder to talk in local.

"You can not post again in Jita Local as you have not trained 'Caldari Public Broadcasting' to level 3"

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