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Torpedo-Lobbing Khanid Abaddon. You know you want this.
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Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-10-17 00:41:33 UTC
Thought this might deserve its own thread.

5% Torpedo and Cruise Damage

4% Armor Resist

Jet-Black roving death machine.

Sabik now, Sabik forever
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#2 - 2013-10-17 00:46:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Arthur Aihaken
Silas Vitalia wrote:
Thought this might deserve its own thread.
5% Torpedo and Cruise Damage
4% Armor Resist
Jet-Black roving death machine.

Yeah, guilty... Except this is an Amarr ship, and isn't jet black a Minmatar trait? Maybe a mottled pattern like the Machariel? But I like where you're going with this. +1

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Harlon Cordarii
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-10-17 01:24:36 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Silas Vitalia wrote:
Thought this might deserve its own thread.
5% Torpedo and Cruise Damage
4% Armor Resist
Jet-Black roving death machine.

Yeah, guilty... Except this is an Amarr ship, and isn't jet black a Minmatar trait? Maybe a mottled pattern like the Machariel? But I like where you're going with this. +1


I think he meant that silver/black/blue light scheme that the badass Vengeance and Malediction use among other ships. I'm super +1ing this idea because I can't get enough of that color scheme!
Tilly Delnero
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-10-17 01:27:27 UTC
Silas Vitalia wrote:
Thought this might deserve its own thread.

5% Torpedo and Cruise Damage

4% Armor Resist

Jet-Black roving death machine.


I have to admit that during the tier 1 battleship refocussing I genuinely hoped and wished for a Khanid battleship to round out the set. It just seems weird that we have a Khanid missile AF, a HAC, a Recon, a CS but then... nothing. Glad to see someone else might share my vision of a viable all-Khanid roaming fleet. Sad
Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-10-17 01:33:40 UTC
Having run a super nerdy khanid-oriented corp many years ago this has long been a goal :P (the all khanid-ship gangs)

Sabik now, Sabik forever
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#6 - 2013-10-17 01:38:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Arthur Aihaken
Harlon Cordarii wrote:
I think he meant that silver/black/blue light scheme that the badass Vengeance and Malediction use among other ships. I'm super +1ing this idea because I can't get enough of that color scheme!

Oh, oh, ohhhhh.... Yes, yes yes! The matte black with the brushed platinum and blue highlights, definitely ++++. And sure, why not a missile ship (it's not like we'll be seeing a Pirate or Caldari one anytime soon). It needs to have 8 missile turrets though. None of this 6 launcher + 2 turret crap. Maybe a +5% bonus to RHML damage instead and then this thing would rock as a cruise killer.

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Obsidiana
Atrament Inc.
#7 - 2013-10-17 01:43:21 UTC
I'm holding out for a tech 2 version.

Hey, stop laughing! I'm serious. :P
Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-10-17 01:47:53 UTC
Obsidiana wrote:
I'm holding out for a tech 2 version.

Hey, stop laughing! I'm serious. :P


Yea I realize all the other Khanid ships are T2, but we've been waiting for T2 battleships for what like 10 years now? :P

I just wants my Torpedo Abaddon.

Sabik now, Sabik forever
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#9 - 2013-10-17 02:16:43 UTC
Silas Vitalia wrote:
Yea I realize all the other Khanid ships are T2, but we've been waiting for T2 battleships for what like 10 years now? :P
I just wants my Torpedo Abaddon.

Don't hold your breath...

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Iudicium Vastus
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-10-17 02:33:28 UTC
More BS variety would be very cool. Some combat oriented T2s would be super nice. All we have right now for T2 BS hulls are the PVE Marauders, and the Blackops, which are pretty much mini titans for only covert bridges.

[u]Nerf stabs/cloaks in FW?[/u] No, just.. -Fit more points -Fit faction points -Bring a friend or two with points (an alt is fine too)
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#11 - 2013-10-17 02:35:57 UTC
Iudicium Vastus wrote:
More BS variety would be very cool. Some combat oriented T2s would be super nice. All we have right now for T2 BS hulls are the PVE Marauders, and the Blackops, which are pretty much mini titans for only covert bridges.

But this is EVE, and we abhor DPS... We have to ensure those uber-rare and never used State, Tribal, Federate and Imperial issue battleships continue to have "3lite" status.

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Electrique Wizard
Mutually Lucrative Business Proposals
#12 - 2013-10-17 12:33:51 UTC
Battlesized Sac?

I am the Zodiac, I am the stars, You are the sorceress, my priestess of Mars, Queen of the night, swathed in satin black, Your ivory flesh upon my torture rack.
Naomi Anthar
#13 - 2013-10-17 12:43:03 UTC
As full time Amarr pilot i don't want it at all.

I'm tired of missile ships overshadowing thier laser counterparts:
malediction > crusader
vengance > retribution
etc

You hear it - i don't want it.
Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#14 - 2013-10-17 12:50:25 UTC
The lack of a proper* armour tanked missile spewing battleship has irked me for a long time.

A T2 version of the Tier 3 range should be Khanid, same way the Hyperion would be Roden for Gallente. Then you've armour tanked missile spewers with either a rep bonus or resists.


The issue is finding a role for T2 Tier 3's. Battleship command ships?



*Armour scorps/typhoons are not proper armour tanked missile spewers.

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.
ApolloF117 HUN
The All-Seeing Eye
GaNg BaNg TeAm
#15 - 2013-10-17 12:56:55 UTC  |  Edited by: ApolloF117 HUN
Naomi Anthar wrote:
As full time Amarr pilot i don't want it at all.

I'm tired of missile ships overshadowing thier laser counterparts:
malediction > crusader
vengance > retribution
etc

You hear it - i don't want it.

thats you, but we want! maybe you need play much more than 1 year in eve
Naomi Anthar
#16 - 2013-10-17 12:57:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Naomi Anthar
Caellach Marellus wrote:
The lack of a proper* armour tanked missile spewing battleship has irked me for a long time.

A T2 version of the Tier 3 range should be Khanid, same way the Hyperion would be Roden for Gallente. Then you've armour tanked missile spewers with either a rep bonus or resists.


The issue is finding a role for T2 Tier 3's. Battleship command ships?



*Armour scorps/typhoons are not proper armour tanked missile spewers.


Irked you ?

Raven
Raven Navy Issue
Typhoon
Typhoon Fleet Issue - PROPER ARMOUR tanked missile spewing battleship just like it's standard version.
Golem
Scorpion Navy Issue
Widow
and maybe even Rattle after rebalance (but we don't know)

and you say no missile battleships ?
By all means there are 2 armor missile battleships from which one is faction aswell for "upgrade".

You all talking like we don't have advanced combat battleships for PvP...
Problem is that we don't have advanced laser bs aswell for PvP OPEN combat. Nor Projectile or Hybrid.

STOP MAKING CALDARI FROM AMARR. Just coated in armor. Khanid lineup is big enough.
Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#17 - 2013-10-17 12:59:33 UTC
Naomi Anthar wrote:
Caellach Marellus wrote:
The lack of a proper* armour tanked missile spewing battleship has irked me for a long time.

A T2 version of the Tier 3 range should be Khanid, same way the Hyperion would be Roden for Gallente. Then you've armour tanked missile spewers with either a rep bonus or resists.


The issue is finding a role for T2 Tier 3's. Battleship command ships?



*Armour scorps/typhoons are not proper armour tanked missile spewers.


Irked you ?

Raven
Raven Navy Issue
Typhoon
Typhoon Fleet Issue
Golem
Scorpion Navy Issue
Widow
and maybe even Rattle after rebalance (but we don't know)

and you say no missile battleships ?
By all means there are 2 armor missile battleships from which one is faction aswell for "upgrade".

You all talking like we don't have advanced combat battleships for PvP...
Problem is that we don't have advanced laser bs aswell for PvP OPEN combat. Nor Projectile or Hybrid.

STOP MAKING CALDARI FROM AMARR. Just coated in armor. Khanid lineup is big enough.


I'm going to let you go back and re-read the line again, then when you realise the mistake you just made, I'll edit this message out so your lack of reading comprehension isn't saved for posterity.

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.
Naomi Anthar
#18 - 2013-10-17 13:02:39 UTC
Caellach Marellus wrote:
Naomi Anthar wrote:
Caellach Marellus wrote:
The lack of a proper* armour tanked missile spewing battleship has irked me for a long time.

A T2 version of the Tier 3 range should be Khanid, same way the Hyperion would be Roden for Gallente. Then you've armour tanked missile spewers with either a rep bonus or resists.


The issue is finding a role for T2 Tier 3's. Battleship command ships?



*Armour scorps/typhoons are not proper armour tanked missile spewers.


Irked you ?

Raven
Raven Navy Issue
Typhoon
Typhoon Fleet Issue
Golem
Scorpion Navy Issue
Widow
and maybe even Rattle after rebalance (but we don't know)

and you say no missile battleships ?
By all means there are 2 armor missile battleships from which one is faction aswell for "upgrade".

You all talking like we don't have advanced combat battleships for PvP...
Problem is that we don't have advanced laser bs aswell for PvP OPEN combat. Nor Projectile or Hybrid.

STOP MAKING CALDARI FROM AMARR. Just coated in armor. Khanid lineup is big enough.


I'm going to let you go back and re-read the line again, then when you realise the mistake you just made, I'll edit this message out so your lack of reading comprehension isn't saved for posterity.


No no i do understand you completly. You want Amarr race to have Torp advanced combat battleship , but no Laser based. That is what you want. Like remove Zealot and leave Sacrilege only.(just example)

I know exactly what you want and i'm completly against it. If there will be T2 full COMBAT oriented PvP battleship for Amarr race - let it be LASER BASED.
You don't like Amarr - don't fly it. But don't rework entire faction to suit your needs.
Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#19 - 2013-10-17 13:11:24 UTC
Naomi Anthar wrote:
Caellach Marellus wrote:
Naomi Anthar wrote:
Caellach Marellus wrote:
The lack of a proper* armour tanked missile spewing battleship has irked me for a long time.

A T2 version of the Tier 3 range should be Khanid, same way the Hyperion would be Roden for Gallente. Then you've armour tanked missile spewers with either a rep bonus or resists.


The issue is finding a role for T2 Tier 3's. Battleship command ships?



*Armour scorps/typhoons are not proper armour tanked missile spewers.


Irked you ?

Raven
Raven Navy Issue
Typhoon
Typhoon Fleet Issue
Golem
Scorpion Navy Issue
Widow
and maybe even Rattle after rebalance (but we don't know)

and you say no missile battleships ?
By all means there are 2 armor missile battleships from which one is faction aswell for "upgrade".

You all talking like we don't have advanced combat battleships for PvP...
Problem is that we don't have advanced laser bs aswell for PvP OPEN combat. Nor Projectile or Hybrid.

STOP MAKING CALDARI FROM AMARR. Just coated in armor. Khanid lineup is big enough.


I'm going to let you go back and re-read the line again, then when you realise the mistake you just made, I'll edit this message out so your lack of reading comprehension isn't saved for posterity.


No no i do understand you completly. You want Amarr race to have Torp advanced combat battleship , but no Laser based. That is what you want. Like remove Zealot and leave Sacrilege only.(just example)

I know exactly what you want and i'm completly against it. If there will be T2 full COMBAT oriented PvP battleship for Amarr race - let it be LASER BASED.
You don't like Amarr - don't fly it. But don't rework entire faction to suit your needs.


I meant more how I specifically said there's no proper armour tanked battleships, you listed a ton of shield tanked ones.

Also with the Marauder change, the Paladin has a combat role in PvP. You also have the Bhaalgorn, and the shield tanked Nightmare from the faction range.

Everything* is pretty much covered except armour tanked missile ships in the Battleship class. Khanid exists to fill that hole, there's plenty of other laser ships out there.


*Though I may get pulled up on Armour Machs being the AT'd projectile ship.

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.
TehCloud
Guardians of the Dodixie
#20 - 2013-10-17 13:31:16 UTC
Caellach Marellus wrote:


Everything* is pretty much covered except armour tanked missile ships in the Battleship class. Khanid exists to fill that hole, there's plenty of other laser ships out there.



Also Rhoden Shipyards!

My Condor costs less than that module!
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