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[Closed CCP Wins] Petition to remove Dust 514 from EvE
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Raylan Scott
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2013-10-17 15:24:19 UTC
Aivo Dresden wrote:
I would play Dust if it came to PC. Having it on PS3 only was a poor decision.


I think they wanted to get a piece of the HUGE console market. So I'm not sure how that was a poor decision. The biggest mistake is not having it ready for the launch of the PS4.
Sol Weinstein
Lunatic Warfare Federation
#42 - 2013-10-17 15:41:27 UTC
What is this "EvE" you speak of?
Red Teufel
Calamitous-Intent
#43 - 2013-10-17 15:44:34 UTC
hmmm....same universe but they have different forums as well O_o.
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba
Crunchy Crunchy
#44 - 2013-10-17 15:54:27 UTC
I demand all the bunnies be attached to my Nighthawk to drag it around New Eden as a show of force against the vile drake-a-fakation.

Also drop that crap, split team shove half to get WiS up (time for the burn) and the rest on Valkyrie.

PS4 is a no go with Planetside 2, CCP missed the boat.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#45 - 2013-10-17 16:00:45 UTC
I'm not sure why people are worried about the PS4. When DUST was first developed CCP stated that they would be ready when the PS4 hit the market... so unless something has changed this bit at least is a non-issue.

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Raylan Scott
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#46 - 2013-10-17 16:53:52 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
I'm not sure why people are worried about the PS4. When DUST was first developed CCP stated that they would be ready when the PS4 hit the market... so unless something has changed this bit at least is a non-issue.


It's not going to be available on the PS4 for at least a year according to CCP.

I'm not as worried about it as some, but it will hurt the player numbers a bit.
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2013-10-17 17:09:22 UTC
If the analysis of recently released CCP financials is to be believed, economics will be removing Dust from the eve universe soon.

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."
Plane Walkerz
Big Sister Exploration
#48 - 2013-10-17 20:02:38 UTC
I don't think removing Dust is the answer gentlemen, on the contrary an all in approach would be a great answer. Switching to a new platform isn't ideal either but perhaps bringing it to the PC would help, plans to support it on the PS3 while also supporting alternative platforms would make it easier for many new people to access. I support a steam distributed platform for future play-ability.

My current belief is that without a market, Dust will wither and die, no matter what devs try to do to stop this or port it somewhere else, perhaps some of you may agree and lend support to the plans for a market sooner than SOON tm.

[b][i]-The Unknown- Sleepers abound and hunger for blood There are few brave enough to look for a fight with these tyrants, but those who are brave and hold true to their goal will prevail[/i][/b]
Hungry Eyes
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#49 - 2013-10-17 20:11:54 UTC
dust doesnt matter and PI doesnt matter in EVE. CCP should look into this.
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#50 - 2013-10-17 20:19:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Felicity Love
While I love great artwork and any new Sci-fi game that pushes the borders of imagination and fun, I've always seen DUST as just a waste of money with the additional "collateral damage" of taking time, money and dev resources away from EVE.

While "Valkyrie" may be on the right track with a number of ideas, DUST for all it's hype is precious more than a distraction from why WE are all really here.

SPACESHIPS.

C'mon Helmar, flush this mess out the airlock and redouble your commitment to SPACESHIPS.

"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.   ( Pick four, any four. They all smell.  )
The Spod
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2013-10-17 20:36:11 UTC
Signed.

The "pay to inject equipment into economy" crap does not belong on tranquility.

Dust514 is an incarnation of "greed is good" and merely an attempt to circumvent the roadblock faced at monoclegate, where the masses would not conform to paying rl cash to get stuff in EVE.

In short, no aspect of New Eden that is prone for economic warfare should have cash injected items.
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#52 - 2013-10-17 20:51:55 UTC
Sooo.....

You want Dust removed... AND ... you want it attached meaningfully to TQ?

Okay.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf
Red Teufel
Calamitous-Intent
#53 - 2013-10-18 04:27:19 UTC
Arduemont wrote:
Sooo.....

You want Dust removed... AND ... you want it attached meaningfully to TQ?

Okay.



Or Else! Arduemon... Or Else
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#54 - 2013-10-18 04:51:54 UTC
+1. Supported.

Been saying for months now it needs it's influence on FW removed ASAP.

Some random in a 20min dust match should not be able to undo many hours of FW plexing in eve.
The balance is all wrong and it's just an annoyance.

Dust matches are also too easily thrown to influence FW contested rates.

Sitting on a PS3 while dropping nades at my own feet for 20min while I let the side I need to win get on with the job is hardly an action that should effect FW/Eve. But it does.


I am not a hater - Dust was a great idea. Shame it didn't work as I really wanted it to.
Time to move on and let eve continue without it.

https://soundcloud.com/ibanezlaney
Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2013-10-18 04:58:14 UTC
IbanezLaney wrote:
+1. Supported.

Been saying for months now it needs it's influence on FW removed ASAP.

Some random in a 20min dust match should not be able to undo many hours of FW plexing in eve.
The balance is all wrong and it's just an annoyance.

Dust matches are also too easily thrown to influence FW contested rates.

Sitting on a PS3 while dropping nades at my own feet for 20min while I let the side I need to win get on with the job is hardly an action that should effect FW/Eve. But it does.


I am not a hater - Dust was a great idea. Shame it didn't work as I really wanted it to.
Time to move on and let eve continue without it.




Having been in the real-life military, during a war, and participating in offensive hostile actions in said war, I can tell you that DUST activity should have MORE of an influence on FW than it already does.
Navies don't take and hold ground. That's what foot Infantry is for. Navies provide support, whether by transportation, blockading shipping lanes, cutting supply lines, supplying friendlies, or providing fire support, a navy augments the on-ground forces, and nothing more.
DUST integration should be furthered.

Furthermore, when requesting live Orbital Bombardments, DUSTbunnies should have to call for fire on my voice channel and light a beacon. I really want to say "Shot, over" and "Splash, over" into my vent mic, and hear the proper response back.... just so I can know how the guns felt whenever I called for fire, back in my Forward Observer days.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#56 - 2013-10-18 04:59:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Ptraci
Red Teufel wrote:
This is a petition to remove Dust 514 from our server TRANQUILITY. Dust 514 is irrelevant to our game-play and the most unpolished FPS to come out to date. With no news it will go on to next gen consoles or PC it is a sinking ship that doesn't deserve to be part of our universe.

Please remove Dust 514 from TRANQUILITY CCP

also CCP please watch. Link



Couldn't finish that video after I started watching it- does that make me a bad person? Didn't finish your post either. Sigh.
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#57 - 2013-10-18 05:12:57 UTC
Raylan Scott wrote:
Aivo Dresden wrote:
I would play Dust if it came to PC. Having it on PS3 only was a poor decision.


I think they wanted to get a piece of the HUGE console market. So I'm not sure how that was a poor decision. The biggest mistake is not having it ready for the launch of the PS4.


"A huge mistake" would be that console players flock from game to game. It was doomed the minute the next COD came out. Not that putting it on PC would have been better.

Let me think, DUST or Planetside, who wins?
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#58 - 2013-10-18 05:44:52 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
IbanezLaney wrote:
+1. Supported.

Been saying for months now it needs it's influence on FW removed ASAP.

Some random in a 20min dust match should not be able to undo many hours of FW plexing in eve.
The balance is all wrong and it's just an annoyance.

Dust matches are also too easily thrown to influence FW contested rates.

Sitting on a PS3 while dropping nades at my own feet for 20min while I let the side I need to win get on with the job is hardly an action that should effect FW/Eve. But it does.


I am not a hater - Dust was a great idea. Shame it didn't work as I really wanted it to.
Time to move on and let eve continue without it.




Having been in the real-life military, during a war, and participating in offensive hostile actions in said war, I can tell you that DUST activity should have MORE of an influence on FW than it already does.
Navies don't take and hold ground. That's what foot Infantry is for. Navies provide support, whether by transportation, blockading shipping lanes, cutting supply lines, supplying friendlies, or providing fire support, a navy augments the on-ground forces, and nothing more.
DUST integration should be furthered.

Furthermore, when requesting live Orbital Bombardments, DUSTbunnies should have to call for fire on my voice channel and light a beacon. I really want to say "Shot, over" and "Splash, over" into my vent mic, and hear the proper response back.... just so I can know how the guns felt whenever I called for fire, back in my Forward Observer days.



I really do not think something that is 100% exploitable should have more effect on eve.

Which FW faction is your corp fighting for in Eve and what effects that Dust has had to you believe should be increased?




https://soundcloud.com/ibanezlaney
Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2013-10-18 05:47:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Jarod Garamonde
IbanezLaney wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
IbanezLaney wrote:
+1. Supported.

Been saying for months now it needs it's influence on FW removed ASAP.

Some random in a 20min dust match should not be able to undo many hours of FW plexing in eve.
The balance is all wrong and it's just an annoyance.

Dust matches are also too easily thrown to influence FW contested rates.

Sitting on a PS3 while dropping nades at my own feet for 20min while I let the side I need to win get on with the job is hardly an action that should effect FW/Eve. But it does.


I am not a hater - Dust was a great idea. Shame it didn't work as I really wanted it to.
Time to move on and let eve continue without it.




Having been in the real-life military, during a war, and participating in offensive hostile actions in said war, I can tell you that DUST activity should have MORE of an influence on FW than it already does.
Navies don't take and hold ground. That's what foot Infantry is for. Navies provide support, whether by transportation, blockading shipping lanes, cutting supply lines, supplying friendlies, or providing fire support, a navy augments the on-ground forces, and nothing more.
DUST integration should be furthered.

Furthermore, when requesting live Orbital Bombardments, DUSTbunnies should have to call for fire on my voice channel and light a beacon. I really want to say "Shot, over" and "Splash, over" into my vent mic, and hear the proper response back.... just so I can know how the guns felt whenever I called for fire, back in my Forward Observer days.



I really do not think something that is 100% exploitable should have more effect on eve.

Which FW faction is your corp fighting for in Eve and what effects that Dust has had to you believe should be increased?







Dude, I quit FW last year. I'm a pirate, again. Couldn't you tell from the eyepatch?

Regardless, my opinion on the matter still stands. Every other mechanic in this game has a semi-reality-based aspect. DUST should take full advantage of what it can/can't potentially influence.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
adarma
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#60 - 2013-10-18 06:15:02 UTC
*signed

Eve would have been in an utterly different place if all that development time, energy and resources should not have gone to a console game for children. Still, if anything can be salvaged for the future...