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Skills - why does this still happen?

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San La Muerte
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-10-15 16:55:57 UTC

Upon returning to the game, I've created this new character and now face the tedium of slowly skilling him up over multiple years of RL time just to fly all the ships I used to be able to.

Fine. But this is an Amarr combat pilot and the only skills I will be training on him will be Amarr combat skills. But sticking out of my character screen like two sore thumbs are the skills Industry and Mining.

Now my (in the future) awesome pvp pilot will have the filthy taint of mining and industry forever associated with him, and I had no control over this.

Please can we have the option to either start a character from scratch with all skills at zero, go back to having a small pool of starting SP to spend, or add the ability to remove all SP from a chosen skill at any time?

Thanks

"I am the harbinger of hope.  I am the sword of the righteous and to all who hear my words I say this: what you give to this empire, I shall give back unto you" - Empress Jamyl Sarum I at her coronation.
Skeln Thargensen
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-10-15 16:59:02 UTC
This could be an interesting experiment. i don't know how much SP you have or time to waste but i think if you run at enough gate camps in your pod you will eventually get zero'd.

forums.  serious business.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#3 - 2013-10-15 17:01:34 UTC
Nope.

You must suffer for your poor choices made back in the deep dark past. We are all foolish when younger.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
San La Muerte
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2013-10-15 17:02:06 UTC
Skeln Thargensen wrote:
This could be an interesting experiment. i don't know how much SP you have or time to waste but i think if you run at enough gate camps in your pod you will eventually get zero'd.


I can't see that working as the minimum clone you can have (alpha) protects up to 900k of SP.

"I am the harbinger of hope.  I am the sword of the righteous and to all who hear my words I say this: what you give to this empire, I shall give back unto you" - Empress Jamyl Sarum I at her coronation.
San La Muerte
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2013-10-15 17:02:59 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Nope.

You must suffer for your poor choices made back in the deep dark past. We are all foolish when younger.


What choices? When you create the character you have mining at 2 and industry 1 from the get go.

"I am the harbinger of hope.  I am the sword of the righteous and to all who hear my words I say this: what you give to this empire, I shall give back unto you" - Empress Jamyl Sarum I at her coronation.
Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#6 - 2013-10-15 17:03:20 UTC
No, the alpha grade clone keeps some skill points, 900ki believe. So you could never "zero" out.
illirdor
Upper Class Goat
#7 - 2013-10-15 17:07:07 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Nope.

You must suffer for your poor choices made back in the deep dark past. We are all foolish when younger.


Well good thing you didnt train reading up...

Soooo this is my sig.... 
Kyt Thrace
Lightspeed Enterprises
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2013-10-15 17:07:45 UTC
PLEX for the Removal of Unwanted Skills

You DO NOT get reimbursed for skill points or skill books.

R.I.P. Vile Rat
San La Muerte
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2013-10-15 17:12:57 UTC
Kyt Thrace wrote:
PLEX for the Removal of Unwanted Skills

You DO NOT get reimbursed for skill points or skill books.


Signed

I can't see why anyone would have a problem with this.

"I am the harbinger of hope.  I am the sword of the righteous and to all who hear my words I say this: what you give to this empire, I shall give back unto you" - Empress Jamyl Sarum I at her coronation.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#10 - 2013-10-15 17:16:00 UTC
Over the years CCP has been all over the place with starting SP/skills. Anywhere from three to over a half dozens skills to start and anywhere from 800k+ to less than 100kSP.

Yet, as far as I can recall, there has never been an option to simply start from no skills and no SP. I have to ask myself why that is in a game of specialized alts and a booming character trade.

Makes no sense.

Mr Epeen Cool
Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2013-10-15 17:20:32 UTC
San La Muerte wrote:

Now my (in the future) awesome pvp pilot will have the filthy taint

Ugh
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#12 - 2013-10-15 17:26:00 UTC
San La Muerte wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Nope.

You must suffer for your poor choices made back in the deep dark past. We are all foolish when younger.


What choices? When you create the character you have mining at 2 and industry 1 from the get go.


It was a f**king joke. NVM then.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#13 - 2013-10-15 17:27:19 UTC
San La Muerte wrote:
Kyt Thrace wrote:
PLEX for the Removal of Unwanted Skills

You DO NOT get reimbursed for skill points or skill books.


Signed

I can't see why anyone would have a problem with this.



I can already visualize a kajillion exploits for this, and I'm not even criminally minded. Sheesh. Are you posting just to be poasting? (yup).

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
San La Muerte
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2013-10-15 17:30:01 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
San La Muerte wrote:
Kyt Thrace wrote:
PLEX for the Removal of Unwanted Skills

You DO NOT get reimbursed for skill points or skill books.


Signed

I can't see why anyone would have a problem with this.



I can already visualize a kajillion exploits for this, and I'm not even criminally minded. Sheesh. Are you posting just to be poasting? (yup).


Can you? Name three.

No, I am serious. I want the option to train the skills I choose to. Out of the two of us, you're the one who doesn't seem to be adding anything to the conversation.


"I am the harbinger of hope.  I am the sword of the righteous and to all who hear my words I say this: what you give to this empire, I shall give back unto you" - Empress Jamyl Sarum I at her coronation.
Kate stark
#15 - 2013-10-15 17:33:55 UTC
sell your character, and buy a new one.

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.
Kyt Thrace
Lightspeed Enterprises
Goonswarm Federation
#16 - 2013-10-15 17:36:05 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
San La Muerte wrote:
Kyt Thrace wrote:
PLEX for the Removal of Unwanted Skills

You DO NOT get reimbursed for skill points or skill books.


Signed

I can't see why anyone would have a problem with this.



I can already visualize a kajillion exploits for this, and I'm not even criminally minded. Sheesh. Are you posting just to be poasting? (yup).


I too would like to know the kajillion exploits for this.

R.I.P. Vile Rat
Smohq Anmirorz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-10-15 17:40:22 UTC
San La Muerte wrote:

Upon returning to the game, I've created this new character and now face the tedium of slowly skilling him up over multiple years of RL time just to fly all the ships I used to be able to.

Fine. But this is an Amarr combat pilot and the only skills I will be training on him will be Amarr combat skills. But sticking out of my character screen like two sore thumbs are the skills Industry and Mining.

Now my (in the future) awesome pvp pilot will have the filthy taint of mining and industry forever associated with him, and I had no control over this.

Please can we have the option to either start a character from scratch with all skills at zero, go back to having a small pool of starting SP to spend, or add the ability to remove all SP from a chosen skill at any time?

Thanks


My, but don't we live in a privileged age?
San La Muerte
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2013-10-15 17:46:04 UTC
Smohq Anmirorz wrote:
My, but don't we live in a privileged age?


Is that your generic response to any request to improve the game/gameplay experience.


"I am the harbinger of hope.  I am the sword of the righteous and to all who hear my words I say this: what you give to this empire, I shall give back unto you" - Empress Jamyl Sarum I at her coronation.
Tikitina
Doomheim
#19 - 2013-10-15 17:51:39 UTC
I'd say send and Eve mail to your friendly CSM representative and explain this outrage to them.

That should get them fired up.
Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-10-15 17:57:32 UTC
San La Muerte wrote:

Upon returning to the game, I've created this new character and now face the tedium of slowly skilling him up over multiple years of RL time just to fly all the ships I used to be able to.

Fine. But this is an Amarr combat pilot and the only skills I will be training on him will be Amarr combat skills. But sticking out of my character screen like two sore thumbs are the skills Industry and Mining.

Now my (in the future) awesome pvp pilot will have the filthy taint of mining and industry forever associated with him, and I had no control over this.

Please can we have the option to either start a character from scratch with all skills at zero, go back to having a small pool of starting SP to spend, or add the ability to remove all SP from a chosen skill at any time?

Thanks


Those dirty industrial hauling ships and their dirty ew fitting mid slots.
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