EVE General Discussion

Wheres the proof? We get at least 1 person a week coming on here saying they've got some sort of RL health issue and someone treated them mean in game, like the two are even remoteley related at all.

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*Jenn jumps up to hold Benny back*

Naw dawg, don't do it, you just got out of the joint, one more strike and that's it's with your CONCORD record, he's not worth it!

(lol CONCORD, I keeps it both real and in-game).

I get this tingly feeling that this is some elaborate hoax to make these "AWOXERS" to be some type of super evil crew that would cause a few to go full on white knight and wardec them, funneling in juicy killmails without expense, BUT if this is all legit and on the up and up, then I am sorry that this happened to you OP...

However, you know the rules, that rules that was breed into you the first moments you logged on to Eve. Let me remind you-

-Do not fly/undock a ship that you can't afford to lose
-Do not haul Plex in your Cargo
-Always watch local
-Never Autopilot
etc,etc,etc

But there are three that are most important- RL comes first, Eve Online is a game, enjoy it, and Trust Nobody!

Good Luck out there OP!

OTOH OP: You can actually say "I was there".

And you see no problem with this?

This is the core of the issue and has nothing to do with Psyrus' illness or behaviour/attitude on the forums.

• Psyrus, after a long break logged in and asked in a public Rionnag Alba channel [note, RA not NCdot] to join a corp with people he knew
• In the interim RA left the alliance and apparently failed to inform him (?) which might in all fairness be a result of doing a non forum app during transit from the alliance, but that's hardly his fault
• Even a long term active player might:
a) not notice the corp had left the alliance in the interim
b) assume they would retain standings for a while
c) assume channel settings would kick him/others if a reset had been made
d) assume potential recruits would be not be actively targeted by members of common channels [remember recruits cannot see standings, so everyone will appear as neut/red etc]

• He asked for a cyno in the RA (?) channel a few days later and was ganked by the alliance he thought he was joining, because NCdot members were still sat in channel. Or perhaps he was in an NCdot channel, derp.

Apparently a recruit sitting in a former ally channel is an appropriate target? <---- That is the bit to pay attention to, and/or question.

Given his RL issues, it's pretty understandable Psyrus would be upset. Even if he expresses it poorly, and focuses on his real life issues rather than the fact he was duped by people he should reasonably be able to expect not to do so. Especially when you consider he told RA his situation.

GreGh Rakrot posted an explanation here along with the rather condescending advice not to try to get sympathy or understanding on GD. Well, why not resolve it privately then, so he doesn't have to resort to GD? GreGh named Aussie Willy as an NCDot member who abused his position in channel to gain intel. It sounds very much like an RA f up, so why not just take responsibility and sort it? Even if he is wrong in part, doesn't make RA or NCDot look good either.

And to all of the people replying with "welcome to eve" etc, you can spout that at rookies (you might perceive this guy as one, but he has a valid complaint imo), but not with large alliances which supposedly pride themselves on not griefing recruits, and having solid recruitment practices, with their own set of conventions. Some of which even involve, courtesy, common sense and oh god, civility. Some involve trolling, hazing and griefing. You can't drift between the two when it suits either through incompetence or boredom. Common sense check: Any corp on it's way out might expect standings issues and inactive members stuck; it's just a normal occurence with nullsec blocks. All it takes normally is to send internal mails, advise recruits/update pub channel MOTD and actually speak to recruits loitering in your public channels rather than let hostiles troll them.

The later posts by Kimsemus make it clear that this guy was perceived as a valid target. Which tbh, is a bit surprising. The only large nullsec block I can recall who proudly attack, scam and troll recruits and/or gleefully shoot blues are ebil Gewnies. I thought ex-Tri and Bobbits defined themselves as distinct from the derty bees by their elityness and honour(e). And other questionable claims of superiority. RA applicants (and perhaps NCdot) might well be interested to note they are unsafe in public and recruitment channels because of the, well. Scum?

This could have been resolved with a simple apology by RA to Psyrus since it is clearly in part a misunderstanding. No matter how unreasonable he is being, or how badly he argues the point, if general public/recruitment channels are used to target people, it's an interesting reflection on the entities they are joining. Aussie Willy soundsba **** tbh for sitting in a former corp's public channel then passing on intel to mislead and gank, and the FC was probably a cretin.

Carry on missing the point GD. All the best Psyrus, IRL and ingame!

Hey look, a feel good thread that doesn't involve my alliance. Better post in it.

I like how it takes them 4 whole minutes to kill 2 carriers. lmao a+

Fixed the above missing name and if he is the ceo then you show a sad way of being a leader even to a corp that you called a friend.

Nice of you to make it look like this is the only thing that took place. Aussie Willy was in on the conversation from me joining the entire time in the channel. You can spin it any way you want he was perceived as a friend to R A the entire time and even joked around that night for a long while.

So please tell all the facts and like I have said before stop trying to justify a scum bag perceiving to be not only R A friend but mine as well when he offered to help. Even stating he was mission running in Empire space that night and said he would log a alt on to open a cyno.

People do have other things to do and I waited for him not expecting for him to be a piece of crap portraying as a friend. I have been in former BoB corps where everyone showed allot respect when perceiving them as a friend. So go ahead and spin it how ever you want you are the same scum that likes to prey on people that trust honor worthy corps and alliances. So your defense just justifies how guilty you are for trolling a honorable corps recruitment channel and pretending to be their friend even when they left you on good terms and left no reason for you to prey on any of their recruits.