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Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#81 - 2013-10-16 05:14:13 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:

Why don't they just add a video screen to the CQ where players can play Somer Blink all day? Might as well just integrate that 100% fully trusted third party right into the game.

Seriously, WIS player owned casino's would be cool

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#82 - 2013-10-16 07:04:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Arduemont
Benny Ohu wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
People want avatar gameplay.

all ten of them, lawl


ThreadS. You facetious fuckt*rd. So your complete lack of data is better than my lack of data, right? You do realise from a logical stand point you support the hypothesis with the greater amount of data. You may laugh at the small numbers, but they are greater than yours. We should be laughing at you.

All three of you stupid cunts.

That link doesn't include any people posting with less than 8 posts and they are the vast majority of the posters in the thread. Plus, your "10" is "50". When you can't distinguish between 10 and 50, your a ******* ******. Maybe you should take your stupid **** ass back to school instead of talking in dumb ass on the forums. When you add your smug "lawl" to the end of your sentence you don't look victorious. You look like you can't string a coherent argument together because your too stupid and can't read.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf
Anomaly One
Doomheim
#83 - 2013-10-16 07:36:55 UTC
Kinda funny that goons are in the majority of posters in that thread, inb4 "well they are a big alliance you don't expect them to post stfu" ****
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#84 - 2013-10-16 09:43:12 UTC
I Was There wrote:
They should make it possible to open the door. When you open it, a cutscene will appear and you see yourself walk around a few seconds, before you're mugged by brutor slave children.


Amarr education Video on why Minmatars need to be enslaved to ensure the safety of the devout and law abiding citizen?

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

Sticky: AFK Cloaking Thread It's not pretty, but it's there.
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#85 - 2013-10-16 10:29:10 UTC
Arduemont wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
People want avatar gameplay.

all ten of them, lawl


ThreadS. You facetious fuckt*rd. So your complete lack of data is better than my lack of data, right? You do realise from a logical stand point you support the hypothesis with the greater amount of data. You may laugh at the small numbers, but they are greater than yours. We should be laughing at you.

All three of you stupid cunts.

That link doesn't include any people posting with less than 8 posts and they are the vast majority of the posters in the thread. Plus, your "10" is "50". When you can't distinguish between 10 and 50, your a ******* ******. Maybe you should take your stupid **** ass back to school instead of talking in dumb ass on the forums. When you add your smug "lawl" to the end of your sentence you don't look victorious. You look like you can't string a coherent argument together because your too stupid and can't read.


You seem mad, you can always go to second life and make your avatar bang is head into a wall.

The Tears Must Flow
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#86 - 2013-10-16 11:20:32 UTC
Hilarious.

Posting from my phone, so quoting is a pain and i'll just respond this way.

"her alts" = "his alt". One. The obvious one. I'm sure you can guess which one.
Made during the ToS ****, not even playing with it.

Benny got it right. Reality is that CCP doesn't work on anything WiS related,
except probably the exploration part, which is not "in Station", btw.
CCCP said that they didn't plan combat elements for WiS,
which i have pointed out. Obviously the exploratio part,
which is IN SPACE will have combat elements.

And again... it wasn't a vocal minority! CCP lost tons of money by losing a few thousand accounts,
which they lost because of the sum of **** they have managed to pile up in such a short amount of time,
that it collapsed right onto them! Get your historic facts straight!

The issue wasn't just the failure Incarna was, but the sum of everything that happened! Now the avatar crowd
comes in short, because people were demanding that CCP concentrates on FiS! On fixing the bugs!
On creating stuff for FiS! People feared CCP will keep concentrating on WiS and completely neglect those people
who are playing spaceships! This too was a part of the reasons why the tower of **** collapsed!

Realitycheck: CCP is working on FiS. Do you see a ragethread filled with hundreds of people quitting
because CCP neglects WiS? No! Did we see a ragethread with hundreds quitting because they neglected FiS?
Yes!

Also. No matter how many people you talk to, there is this little thing called bias. You might actually just seek those
who are pro WiS, which means that you, of course, will find lots of people supporting it! Doesn't matter anyway, though!

You can say whatever you want, but reality is not going to change, unless you make it change!
Unless you collectively vote with your wallets, like people did back then, you have no ground whatsoever!

CCP cares about it's customers and obviously the customers want FiS! That's current reality! No matter how many
words and assumptions you put into it, they don't change reality! Proof: No ragequitting thread about lack of WiS.

Try RealitChecks more often. They help people to stop mixing wishfull thinking with what's going on.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#87 - 2013-10-16 11:25:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
But wait, there's even more reality that people are willfully ignoring!

For example the fact that CCP does not prioritize the potential millions (lol)
of potential customers the could eventually gather by makjng more WiS content!


You think they don't know the POSSIBILITY of gaining more customers?
RealityCheck! If they cared, they'd create more WiS content!
Do they do that? No!

You are completely out of your mind with ****. You believe suddenly with WiS
thousands of high grade escapists will not only join, but also stay!
It's an assumption! Nothing more, nothing less!

Most people inEvE aren't RPers! Good luck fighting against the majority! :)
Yes, majority. CCP obviously isn't doing what the minority wants,
because else the majority would complain!
Check the forums if you want.
You are the minority.
RealityCheck!
Velicitia
XS Tech
#88 - 2013-10-16 12:02:48 UTC
TBH, I'm not anti-WiS .. I'd be pleasantly surprised with "oh, and guys, so we know we haven't done a lot with WiS that you've known about ... but uh, we were kinda working on it the whole time since Incarna, and we're unlocking the door now ... and we also put cookies in the office" getting added to an expansion -- that is, not the main focus, but just "something else" that they throw in.

No hype, no warning... just maybe it being on SISI, and then patch notes saying it's on TQ.

Anything more (i.e. hype or making WiS the focus of an expansion) will probably do more harm than good at least in the near future.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Skeln Thargensen
Doomheim
#89 - 2013-10-16 12:09:11 UTC
yes that's exactly the way to do it. drop it on us out of the blue and then popcorn.

'cos we're already suffering from hype fatigue on things we can all agree we want like jove space, new frontier, player owned stargates yadda yadda.

forums.  serious business.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#90 - 2013-10-16 12:51:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Velicitia
Skeln Thargensen wrote:
yes that's exactly the way to do it. drop it on us out of the blue and then popcorn.

'cos we're already suffering from hype fatigue on things we can all agree we want like jove space, new frontier, player owned stargates yadda yadda.


Goddamn ... this is the most I've referred back to the same post/links ever...
The WiS Hype vs. The WiS Reality

THIS is why people got upset about WiS specifically (Incarna was bad all around for many other reasons).

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Winters Chill
Unitas Incorporated
#91 - 2013-10-16 13:40:10 UTC
Iteration on Incarna is a massive can of technical and design worms.


Which stations do you allow pilots to walk about?

Is every station unique (procedural generation) or is it set out pre-baked areas depending on race?

How many players can one area support, do you limit the amount of players in an area (and what about jita).

How do you do the above while maintaining verisimilitude?

What kind of gameplay will it involve? Its has to have something because pure social spaces is a complete waste of (dev) time and money.

What do the players get from the experience? Some people want it but how do you avoid making it entirely igonored?

Do you let players own shops and bars? Then you have to answer the above questions for those.

What about combat?

What about health/life or damage. If you die are you perma dead?


As you can see its a heck of alot of work, do you really want CCP diverting the resources from the core game so you can own a sock shop or a tittie bar?
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#92 - 2013-10-16 14:53:46 UTC
Vaju Enki wrote:
Arduemont wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
People want avatar gameplay.

all ten of them, lawl


ThreadS. You facetious fuckt*rd. So your complete lack of data is better than my lack of data, right? You do realise from a logical stand point you support the hypothesis with the greater amount of data. You may laugh at the small numbers, but they are greater than yours. We should be laughing at you.

All three of you stupid cunts.

That link doesn't include any people posting with less than 8 posts and they are the vast majority of the posters in the thread. Plus, your "10" is "50". When you can't distinguish between 10 and 50, your a ******* ******. Maybe you should take your stupid **** ass back to school instead of talking in dumb ass on the forums. When you add your smug "lawl" to the end of your sentence you don't look victorious. You look like you can't string a coherent argument together because your too stupid and can't read.


You seem mad, you can always go to second life and make your avatar bang is head into a wall.


You seem to have confused being as ass hole with being mad. Although I am an ass hole, I also happen to be right. Which is more than I can say for you.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf
Nadia Barsrallah
Nerbles
#93 - 2013-10-17 17:11:29 UTC
i want combat.

eve claims to be a hardcore pvp game,

yet people will play station games for hours, trash talking and all.

When the reality is, no matter how bad you want to kill someone, no matter how much isk your fleet is worth. you simple can't unlock a door and point a gun at someone's head.

for a game claiming to be hardcore pvp, the death penalty is well.... weak? anyone who PvP's will replace any losses almost instantly. The worse case scenario of dying in eve is a KB record.

its disheartening, that at its core, no matter how well you planned / camped / meta'd your fleet composition. your enemies/victims can simply dock and be perma safe.

Incarna and WiS has the foundational elements to eliminate station games from PvP in EVE, but the bi-lateral split of rpers/second lifers and FiS advocates is drowning.

imagine instead of hours of sov grinding, you just dock in the station and kill all the staff, npc and player alike. Intense in station gun-fight would be alot more gameplay than F1 and walk away for hours.

kill rights could take on a whole new dimension, when the high-sec griefer/pirate doesnt feel so safe docked up.

Walking in stations is a silly

fighting in stations is awesome

station games, trash talking meta, docks and log offs, sov grinding etc.

so many seemingly unrelated pvp gripes and development challenges could be fixed or alleviated by fighting in station.

more ways to kill people is allways going to bring in more customers.

problem is, there is power-players and alliance leaders, who would feel a litte "too vulnerable" if the fighting in station concept went green. Billions and trillions of assets and 1000s of grunts/pilots means nothing if one person can get past all of it to kill you.

then there is the problem of.... what to do about an army camping a medical / cloning lab.
destiny2
Decaying Rocky Odious Non Evil Stupid Inane Nobody
Rogue Drone Recovery Syndicate
#94 - 2013-10-17 17:15:38 UTC
id like a nuclear bomb to put in jita main station to get a bunch of killmails at once. Big smile