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Decontaminate the station!

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Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#61 - 2013-10-15 19:25:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Nyancat Audeles
wowyouareacow wrote:
Tbh if you want this kind of thing I suggest you do this in another game... I don't think it's good for CCP to invest time in WIS atm for this spaceship game.

And here is the minority speaking again.

The positive feedback from this change would be MASSIVE. EVE would be all over every gaming news venue, and it would be the go-to sci-fi game. If you've seen some of the Incarna previews, WiS was well underway, at least half-way done - Station interiors, bars, minigames, you name it - the models were done, the engine was done, and then people with toasters for computers started crying and we never got what was promised.

I doubt CCP deleted all of their precious work with WiS. It has so much potential - it's time to release something with it!
Anslo
Scope Works
#62 - 2013-10-15 19:42:32 UTC
Still want a planning room and interactive map to plan fleet movements, analyze combat statistics, etc. Like in that one teaser where the guy was looking at the map and the capsuleer sov was moving closer to high. Like that but more functional, and shared in-game with as many people that are in the board room.

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Anslo
Scope Works
#63 - 2013-10-15 19:47:49 UTC
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
Yes. CCP should open the door, give us some avatar gameplay, and then move onto the next feature.


I really want to start a fight in a bar...

ALSO THIS. Oh, you're docked? That's cool. WE'LL GANK YOU INSIDE.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Solstice Project's Alt
Doomheim
#64 - 2013-10-15 20:47:56 UTC
Nyancat Audeles wrote:
And here is the minority speaking again.
We know that you're part of the minority,
you don't need to point it out.

And i understand that you've meant it the other way round,
but trying to explain it to you is of no use anyway.

That said, if you people really were the majority,
then you you easily could make CCP put work into WiS ...

... but you're not.

It's so extremely obvious, simply based on what's going on
and who CCP cares about, but yet,
because you and the likes of you are so full of yourself
and because you are so desperate in need for of escapism, you simply don't get it.


Thanks for paying, btw !

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Solstice Project's Alt
Doomheim
#65 - 2013-10-15 20:49:32 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
Yes. CCP should open the door, give us some avatar gameplay, and then move onto the next feature.


I really want to start a fight in a bar...

ALSO THIS. Oh, you're docked? That's cool. WE'LL GANK YOU INSIDE.
CCP never intended WiS to contain any actual combat.

Imagine this happening ... the carebears and low self esteem escapists would ragequit en masse.

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Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#66 - 2013-10-15 20:51:23 UTC
it's impossible to make them understand that, they've spent so much energy deluding themselves into thinking the opposite and that wis is eve's only future
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#67 - 2013-10-15 20:51:41 UTC
btw solstice project is sooo much cooler than his alt, just saying, his alt makes him look bad by association
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#68 - 2013-10-15 21:30:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Arduemont
Solstice Project's Alt wrote:
Nyancat Audeles wrote:
And here is the minority speaking again.
We know that you're part of the minority,
you don't need to point it out.


Sorry Solstice. Take a look around, Pro WiS are not the minority. Try going through threads like this and counting the fors and against. You are entirely outnumbered here.

Solstice Project's Alt wrote:
CCP never intended WiS to contain any actual combat.


Read the Avatar exploration prototype thread. CCP really did intend there to be PvP.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf

Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#69 - 2013-10-15 21:50:35 UTC
Arduemont wrote:
Sorry Solstice. Take a look around, Pro WiS are not the minority. Try going through threads like this

nice data sourcing. you've discovered that wis threads have a certain proportion of people interested in wis. this does not indicate what eve players are interested in, though.
Flamespar
State War Academy
Caldari State
#70 - 2013-10-15 22:07:23 UTC
Threads about wanting avatar gameplay have been a constant feature on these forums.

People want avatar gameplay.

Deal with it. Preferably without bursting into tears.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#71 - 2013-10-15 22:18:42 UTC
Flamespar wrote:
People want avatar gameplay.

all ten of them, lawl
Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#72 - 2013-10-15 22:31:28 UTC
The funny thing is... neither Solstice nor her alts posting in this thread described what the f*ck was the problem they have with WiS. They say "developer resources" but it's already been pointed out that the vast majority of work for WiS has been already finished; so they have no option but to troll.

Also, it was the vocal minority who stopped development with WiS. It still is the vocal minority that is against it - nearly everyone I have talked to, and I'd argue that the vast majority of people playing EVE would absolutely love a rich, out-of-spaceship experience in stations. It would add a whole new dimension of gameplay. I don't see what is so hard for them to understand about this.
Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
#73 - 2013-10-15 22:32:06 UTC
visitante inferno wrote:
they should have a built in hotel where players can opt in to make new clones rofl



Well, it would take 9 months for the new clone to be ready, and 18 to be ready to be a capsuleer, but sure. I support this feature and/or service. :D
Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#74 - 2013-10-15 22:41:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Nyancat Audeles
Solstice Project's Alt wrote:

We know that you're part of the minority,
you don't need to point it out.

Oh really? What makes you say this?

Solstice Project's Alt wrote:

And i understand that you've meant it the other way round,
but trying to explain it to you is of no use anyway.

Really, great argument you have there!
"You're wrong, and I don't know why, so that makes me right!"

Solstice Project's Alt wrote:

That said, if you people really were the majority,
then you you easily could make CCP put work into WiS ...

Because CCP never put work into WiS, amirite? Oh wait...

Solstice Project's Alt wrote:

It's so extremely obvious, simply based on what's going on
and who CCP cares about

I'm sure you're enjoying that CCP roadmap you have with yourself.

Solstice Project's Alt wrote:

because you and the likes of you are so full of yourself
and because you are so desperate in need for of escapism, you simply don't get it.

Bravo! Again, nice argument you have there!
"You want walking in stations, so that makes you [insert undesirable qualities here] !"
Skeln Thargensen
Doomheim
#75 - 2013-10-15 22:49:56 UTC
Nyancat, I don't think a teaser really counts as evidence that WiS was significantly advanced. it could be mocked up, companies do this all the time.

forums.  serious business.

Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#76 - 2013-10-15 22:55:23 UTC
Nyancat Audeles wrote:
Solstice Project's Alt wrote:

We know that you're part of the minority,
you don't need to point it out.

Oh really? What makes you say this?

Solstice Project's Alt wrote:

And i understand that you've meant it the other way round,
but trying to explain it to you is of no use anyway.

Really, great argument you have there!
"You're wrong, and I don't know why, so that makes me right!"

you, uh, don't see any similarities between solstice's 'argument' and your own?

Nyancat Audeles wrote:
Solstice Project's Alt wrote:

It's so extremely obvious, simply based on what's going on
and who CCP cares about

I'm sure you're enjoying that CCP roadmap you have with yourself.

he's talking about every expansion and csm meeting from crucible to rubicon and also the fact that noone is working on wis
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#77 - 2013-10-15 23:19:48 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
People want avatar gameplay.

all ten of them, lawl


Priceless.

The Tears Must Flow

Barkaial Starfinder
Brazilian Vultures
Ferrata Victrix
#78 - 2013-10-16 02:32:02 UTC
Some people seem to not know why Incarna was shunned.

It was not because a part of the player base didn't care about WiS. Everything you develop in a game will bother some people, no matter what, and this has happened in every EVE expansion.

There are several reasons why Incarna was so different, including the fact that many aspects of FiS were broken and left to rot.
When people saw that all we got was a single player room, almost everyone that liked or disliked WiS got upset.

It they did Incarna as it should be back then, even Wis haters would settle down.
Anomaly One
Doomheim
#79 - 2013-10-16 02:42:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Anomaly One
Quote:
Because CCP never put work into WiS, amirite? Oh wait...


That looks awesome to have.. **** they should implement it right now even if no one else could enter just add the features later.

Really when I started eve I thought this **** was already implemented, talking with agents in boardroom etc. I remember seeing an ad talking to a hologram or something similar.
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#80 - 2013-10-16 04:24:25 UTC
Nyancat Audeles wrote:

Solstice Project's Alt wrote:

That said, if you people really were the majority,
then you you easily could make CCP put work into WiS ...

Because CCP never put work into WiS, amirite? Oh wait...

That's just a small teaser.

I seriously doubt, that CCP has a 40 km long station ready for launch. Let alone dozens of different ones for all races and variants.

On the other side, I'm all for putting agents into a room behind the next corridor and allow Dust mercs to shoot capsuleers while they hand in their missions Pirate.

Remove standings and insurance.