Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Its a combination of things, not just mobility. An armor buffer fit mega aligns 1 second slower than an armor buffer fit Brutix and 2 seconds slower than an armor buffer fit Thorax.

Its more to do with cost vs usefulness. Hitting stuff reliably and absurd lock times imo. I tried roaming in a cloak fitted megathron once, took 45 seconds to lock a bloody frigate.



No. Battleships are not used when they're needed to be used, BC are used instead.

Have no idea what you're talking about regarding FW.

No idea what you're trying to say regarding fleets of 15 or less. Pretty much just confirming what I'm saying. Use battleships and get blobbed because they're inferior but cost heaps more.

Again "A battleship can fall so quick if it were fitted wrong and if it were attacked with even few frigates" pretty much confirming they're inferior again.

Battleships have no relation to capital ships therefore the comparison is pointless. Capital ships are capital ships while sub-capital ships (including battleships) are sub-capital ships. Different class of ship with completely different roles.

Thank you for the post though.

Why don't you think its a fix?

Battleships currently don't fit into the traditional role of what we on earth at least think when we hear the word battleship. We think big, tough, heavyweight, slow powerhouses that slug it out over long ranges with other battleships, over a prolonged period of time.

The bastion module certainly puts the battleship back into that role. It immobilizes the ship and allows it to do big numbers long range damage while having a tough ass tank. It removes the battleship from competing with the mobile, agile, smaller hitting but more accurate ships which is simply cannot compete with in its current state.

It puts the battleship into a new, more appropriate role for the ship class and provides a place in a gang of even smaller ships since what gang wouldn't want a mini dread or two to come along and help out.

I put out a crazy idea in the Mauraders thread, give all battlehships 8 high slots, designate x number of slots to small, medium and large weapons, say 2 slots for small, 3 for medium, and 3 for large, give damage bonuses of 100% to the small, medium, and large weapons, that way the battleship will be prepared for all contingencies of combat, make the damn thing feared like it should be

Just like the old Iowa class battleships, which had 9 main guns, 10 secondary batteries of smaller medium guns as well as 20 quad and 49 single AA batteries. Overpowered my ass, it was feared and for good reason. LOL

not necessarily, if you applied 100% weapon damage using my example, instead of 2 small guns you effectively have 4, same with medium instead of 3 you have 6 and again with Large, instead of 3 you have 6. If anything this will increase the amount of dps vs larger targets, so in essence the larger the target the more dps you can bring to bear on it. But I see your point of most targets, I take it you mean smaller targets such as frigates. With my example at least the battleship can shoot at the frigate with its small and medium guns, the smaller guns will hit more often naturally because of better tracking, but at least it will take some damage from the medium guns as well, the larger guns won't have the tracking to hit the smaller target at closer ranges unless of course its webbed, in which case its screwed But hey its just an idea, whether or not CCP acknowledges it or not or even considers it I thought it would be fun to put it out there

btw the same idea can be applied to cuisers, small and medium guns, unfortunetly frigates get the shaft with just small guns, possibly increase frigate damage % to compensate. Who knows just a crazy thought I had.

Range is another thing I just thought of where you might not be able to bring full dps to bear, with anything there is always a trade off.

Remove them from gun boats or reduce the amount they can have, not every single ship needs drones, leave the drones to the dedicated drone boats. If your thinking my idea vs a drone boat, the smaller guns will take care of the smaller drones, while the bigger guns can take out sentries. Provided of course the sentries are in range of your main guns, if not then pull out or reposition to engage.

Its armour

They can be nueted. They don't receive a bonus to tracking so you can still wtfpwn them that way in a smaller ship. They cannot be remote repped while in bastion.

An armageddon with bastion? Dominx? They dont care about tracking. A typhoon, raven, an ewar immune scorpion? Wtf would you do to a gang of e-war immune scorpions? You cant neut what you cant jam. A domi and geddon could fill their highs with nos and a couple neuts themselves.

I would love bastion on t1 battleships. As, like baltec, I'm the ass that brings a tempest on a cruiser roam. It'd be too strong though.

I got what you said, I'm just flabbergasted at how awful your grasp of reality is.