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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#101 - 2013-10-11 14:56:47 UTC
Maaaaowm Ogeko: I should clarify that I'm not in favor of a permaban on second offense. Maybe a 72 hour ban or something. Then a 14 day ban, then a permaban. Harsh, yes. But not warn -> permaban.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Naomi Anthar
#102 - 2013-10-11 14:56:55 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Naomi Anthar wrote:

And btw EOT. This is more trolling right now and more personal topic for people our dear Ramona to troll around , rather than discuss topic. I don't mind her doing so. I still love her as Dominiqe Altares spotted.



And there we go



Because I disagree with you and call you out on your (still unevidenced) BS, Im a troll



And yes, these likes are hurting me. So deeply. oh ow.


I have many more posts you can like if you wish


Ask and i will grant your wish. +1 Btw you are right talk as much as you want. I will not even report you if you will use abusive words. Surprised ;) ?
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#103 - 2013-10-11 14:58:19 UTC
Naomi Anthar wrote:


Ask and i will grant your wish. +1 Btw you are right talk as much as you want. I will not even report you if you will use abusive words. Surprised ;) ?


Feel free to point out where I have broken the EULA


Not that you agree with it anyway




Intersting... so I have to follow the rules and you dont?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Rhatar Khurin
Doomheim
#104 - 2013-10-11 14:58:23 UTC
If i am in a situation that annoyed me so much that i potentially might make me say something i shouldnt. i just shut up and say nothing.
No Means No
meh fackit
#105 - 2013-10-11 14:58:24 UTC
fuk i swear i think im playing with 13 year olds

wtf is this sht we on 2013 u fukin idiot fuks ccp

fuk off everyone that thinks this is offensive, go hide under your fukin rock and fuk yourself in the asses motherfukers
SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#106 - 2013-10-11 14:59:31 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
SKINE DMZ wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I'm merely demonstrating why slurs are offensive, and why it's none of your business as to whether they should and shouldn't be considered as such.

You're right it's none of my business, but I am merely demonstration why they shouldn't be offensive, did you get offended right there because of the crippled woman? Probably not right? No need to get offended, just brush it off and move on, I didn't jump out of a van or anything.

The fact that I'm not offended is due to a combination of factors

  • I'm not crippled.
  • I'm not a woman.
  • That's a really bizarre attempt at an insult.

You made an error here, the OP's reporter got offended because he was called a f-a-g, but was not one, which is exactly what I done, I called you something you're not. And you're not offended? what a strange world we live in.

I disagree
Naomi Anthar
#107 - 2013-10-11 14:59:42 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Naomi Anthar wrote:


Ask and i will grant your wish. +1 Btw you are right talk as much as you want. I will not even report you if you will use abusive words. Surprised ;) ?


Feel free to point out where I have broken the EULA


Not that you agree with it anyway




Intersting... so I have to follow the rules and you dont?

I will feed you more. I'm spacerich ;) +1
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#108 - 2013-10-11 15:00:05 UTC
No Means No wrote:
fuk i swear i think im playing with 13 year olds

wtf is this sht we on 2013 u fukin idiot fuks ccp

fuk off everyone that thinks this is offensive, go hide under your fukin rock and fuk yourself in the asses motherfukers

Will you watch and think dirty thoughts while I do it?
Maaaaowm Ogeko
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#109 - 2013-10-11 15:02:08 UTC
No Means No wrote:
fuk i swear i think im playing with 13 year olds

wtf is this sht we on 2013 u fukin idiot fuks ccp

fuk off everyone that thinks this is offensive, go hide under your fukin rock and fuk yourself in the asses motherfukers



This is what EVE would be like if it were on XBox Live
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#110 - 2013-10-11 15:02:10 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
SKINE DMZ wrote:
Tippia wrote:
SKINE DMZ wrote:
Tippia wrote:
SKINE DMZ wrote:
Should a homosexual get angry for calling him a heterosexual?
If it's being used as a derogatory and discriminatory slur, yes.

Roll As it goes my signature stays true, its all a personal opinion in the end but you guys are definitely staying true to the term dramaqueen. So much offense talking being used in EVE, but as soon as the word "***" drops oh no its so disrespectful! No surprise here, all you heterosexuals.

Your choice of verbiage equates to demanding the underprivileged to accept the continuation of a regime of distributed privileges and the lack of respect this underprivileged state entails. If they pick up the same methodology of distributing privileges, you are just as much in the right to take exception to their usurpation of power as they are to yours.

Not at all, don't forget this is in a game, I would not call anyone out for their sexuality in real life and harass them for it (or allow others to do it in my presence), but in a game.. especially EVE, anything goes and I find it ridiculous people are being offended by this. you're overreacting massively on the fact that sexuality and "discriminatory slur" is being used.

Next time I would appreciate it if you used less beautifully written english so that I with my bare understandings of English don't have to research your words. ie "You're a ****" would be a lot easier.

Also what about your comms goons and others alike?, no racial slugs are being thrown around there I assume?

Why does it make a difference whether it's online or in person? They're the same words and they carry the same meaning.

As far as comms go, that's something I don't have any control over. I can (mostly) control what I hear (thanks to "no chatter" channels), but that's more so I can actually hear what the FC is saying. I can't control what anybody says. It's also really not an appropriate place to bring up objections about what people are saying.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Naomi Anthar
#111 - 2013-10-11 15:03:40 UTC
Maaaaowm Ogeko wrote:
No Means No wrote:
fuk i swear i think im playing with 13 year olds

wtf is this sht we on 2013 u fukin idiot fuks ccp

fuk off everyone that thinks this is offensive, go hide under your fukin rock and fuk yourself in the asses motherfukers



This is what EVE would be like if it were on XBox Live



You never know about EvE Valkyrie or other CCP games like Dust. You may be pretty right actually.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#112 - 2013-10-11 15:06:58 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
SKINE DMZ wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
SKINE DMZ wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I'm merely demonstrating why slurs are offensive, and why it's none of your business as to whether they should and shouldn't be considered as such.

You're right it's none of my business, but I am merely demonstration why they shouldn't be offensive, did you get offended right there because of the crippled woman? Probably not right? No need to get offended, just brush it off and move on, I didn't jump out of a van or anything.

The fact that I'm not offended is due to a combination of factors

  • I'm not crippled.
  • I'm not a woman.
  • That's a really bizarre attempt at an insult.

You made an error here, the OP's reporter got offended because he was called a f-a-g, but was not one, which is exactly what I done, I called you something you're not. And you're not offended? what a strange world we live in.

There's a distinct difference between being personally offended at the use of a word and having your sensibilities offended. If you call me a *** I might (as a bisexual man) be personally offended. If you call me a ****** I'd be, as a white person, offended in a more ideological sense.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#113 - 2013-10-11 15:07:15 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:

Why does it make a difference whether it's online or in person? They're the same words and they carry the same meaning.

As far as comms go, that's something I don't have any control over. I can (mostly) control what I hear (thanks to "no chatter" channels), but that's more so I can actually hear what the FC is saying. I can't control what anybody says. It's also really not an appropriate place to bring up objections about what people are saying.

Hah you got to be kidding me here, so you're all real life scammers and general mean boys, carries the same meaning, hurts the person invested his time the same wether it was real life or in a game.

I disagree
Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#114 - 2013-10-11 15:07:28 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Lucas Irvam wrote:

If you'd called him a crotch-sniffing zebra molester, you could have avoided being reported and maybe had a good laugh.

Given the number of people sent to Australia for crimes in England, during the colonization for bestiality that is obviously a racist slur.

And a good one at that Lol


and that is in fact why the above comment is a compliment in Australia.
Australia : where men are men and sheep are nervous.

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Kaivar Lancer
Doomheim
#115 - 2013-10-11 15:08:30 UTC
To the OP:

Grow up.
SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#116 - 2013-10-11 15:08:35 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
SKINE DMZ wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
SKINE DMZ wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I'm merely demonstrating why slurs are offensive, and why it's none of your business as to whether they should and shouldn't be considered as such.

You're right it's none of my business, but I am merely demonstration why they shouldn't be offensive, did you get offended right there because of the crippled woman? Probably not right? No need to get offended, just brush it off and move on, I didn't jump out of a van or anything.

The fact that I'm not offended is due to a combination of factors

  • I'm not crippled.
  • I'm not a woman.
  • That's a really bizarre attempt at an insult.

You made an error here, the OP's reporter got offended because he was called a f-a-g, but was not one, which is exactly what I done, I called you something you're not. And you're not offended? what a strange world we live in.

There's a distinct difference between being personally offended at the use of a word and having your sensibilities offended. If you call me a *** I might (as a bisexual man) be personally offended. If you call me a ****** I'd be offended, ideologically, at your use of that word.

So conclusion: it's personal. But should the person be banned or punished for saying it without knowing wether it's a personal issue or not? IMO it's down to the person with the personal issue, to sort out his issues. OVER AND OUT.

I disagree
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#117 - 2013-10-11 15:08:52 UTC
Naomi Anthar wrote:


If you will always look to find racist or homophob in someone ... then you will always find it in someone. Look for something and you will find it - they say.



I don't have to 'look' when it's thrown up RIGHT IN MY FREAKING FACE on a FREAKING GAMER BOARD.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Amhra Rho
Accujac Elimination
#118 - 2013-10-11 15:09:13 UTC
No Means No wrote:
fuk i swear i think im playing with 13 year olds

wtf is this sht we on 2013 u fukin idiot fuks ccp

fuk off everyone that thinks this is offensive, go hide under your fukin rock and fuk yourself in the asses motherfukers

Note to haters: there's always Barrens chat.

There's real reasons why your Eve character doesn't do /dance.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#119 - 2013-10-11 15:09:20 UTC
SKINE DMZ wrote:
Not at all, don't forget this is in a game
The environment does not alter the value of the speech act. If anything, it reinforces it since it has now spread to a new venue of interaction.

Quote:
you're overreacting massively on the fact that sexuality and "discriminatory slur" is being used.
No. I just react properly. The only one overreacting here is the OP, who is getting ridiculously upset over having to follow the rules of the game.

Quote:
Also what about your comms goons and others alike?, no racial slugs are being thrown around there I assume?
Those comms are not subject to CCP's rules and goons are no paragons of social equality. Just because they do it doesn't mean it's worthy of emulation.
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#120 - 2013-10-11 15:10:52 UTC
Maaaaowm Ogeko wrote:
No Means No wrote:
fuk i swear i think im playing with 13 year olds

wtf is this sht we on 2013 u fukin idiot fuks ccp

fuk off everyone that thinks this is offensive, go hide under your fukin rock and fuk yourself in the asses motherfukers



This is what EVE would be like if it were on XBox Live


Yeah, but you'd have to actually hear the 12 year old voice saying it.