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Test Alliance Joining Caldari FW

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kermity
Japanese Whaling Fleet
#161 - 2013-10-21 16:06:01 UTC  |  Edited by: kermity
TEST FW
So Brave
Much LP
much upgrade
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#162 - 2013-10-21 16:21:47 UTC
Dont judge TEST on their first weeks performance. Nobody here came to FW knowing all they do now. Lets look at the facts here. They may not be all that good at small gang PVP yet, but you cannot match their numbers if they come in force.

TACTICALLY: You will beat them. Corps like Qcats and JUSTK are filled with people who know FW and how to pilot... what to bring vs what.. ect. TEST will take a bit to learn.

STRATEGICALLY: There is no way anyone is going to stop them busting an ihub. If a system goes vulnerable, and they decide to drop in on it, good luck. Unless you can muster a force to pop cap ships.

If they dedicate themselves to winning in FW, I am pretty sure they will do it. As soon as they learn how to small gang more effectively, all those comments about the red killboard will be in vein.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Ka'Narlist
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#163 - 2013-10-21 16:33:08 UTC
Pinky Feldman
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#164 - 2013-10-21 16:36:07 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
Dont judge TEST on their first weeks performance. Nobody here came to FW knowing all they do now. Lets look at the facts here. They may not be all that good at small gang PVP yet, but you cannot match their numbers if they come in force.

TACTICALLY: You will beat them. Corps like Qcats and JUSTK are filled with people who know FW and how to pilot... what to bring vs what.. ect. TEST will take a bit to learn.

STRATEGICALLY: There is no way anyone is going to stop them busting an ihub. If a system goes vulnerable, and they decide to drop in on it, good luck. Unless you can muster a force to pop cap ships.

If they dedicate themselves to winning in FW, I am pretty sure they will do it. As soon as they learn how to small gang more effectively, all those comments about the red killboard will be in vein.


I'm just waiting for the inevitable point where they figure things out enough that everyone starts accusing them of blobbing and flying fleet comps that no one wants to fight.

The moar you cry the less you pee
Courath Al'viendi
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#165 - 2013-10-21 16:45:22 UTC
I will gladly join Test and FC Drunk Squirrel fleets for a small price of two plex per month for 60 months. Offer is good until 4pm CST on Friday of October 25th of the year 2013. Have a nice day.

Regards,

Courath "Space Bum King" Al'viendi
Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#166 - 2013-10-21 16:50:31 UTC
Courath just make sure to get payment up front!

JUSTK is recruiting
Jafit McJafitson
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#167 - 2013-10-21 16:56:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Jafit McJafitson
All these people thinking that TEST has no effect on FW because warzone control is decided by farmers and not blobs.

Not realizing that TEST is full of newbies, alts, and people who like to make money.
Not realizing that farming is one of the main reasons we're here
Not realizing that TEST as already hemorrhaged all of its members after losing 4 of the best regions in the game
Not realizing that we literally give out free ships to people and encourage them to go make money.
Not realizing how little we care about killboard stats

We can farm for control and we can blob to flip the ihubs... But we have no effect on warzone control.
Wow, such koolaid, very drink.

Test_free should really stop giving out T1 shitfit pvp plexing frigates and start giving out warp-core-stabbed cloaky farming frigates.

But its not all TEST militia bros have been great too, farming, donating, and joining fleets.

Leto Thule wrote:
STRATEGICALLY: There is no way anyone is going to stop them busting an ihub. If a system goes vulnerable, and they decide to drop in on it, good luck. Unless you can muster a force to pop cap ships.


You overestimate how hard it is to kill TEST capitals. Not that we'd bother dropping caps on an ihub that has 1/10th of the HP as a nullsec sov structure.
Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#168 - 2013-10-21 16:59:27 UTC
it isn't that we don't think test can impact the warzone control, it is that we don't care about warzone control most of the time.

JUSTK is recruiting
Jafit McJafitson
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#169 - 2013-10-21 17:04:58 UTC
Thanatos Marathon wrote:
it isn't that we don't think test can impact the warzone control, it is that we don't care about warzone control most of the time.


Ah the old ~~ DIDN'T WANT THAT WARZONE ANYWAY ~~ line
Tetsuo Tsukaya
Perkone
Caldari State
#170 - 2013-10-21 17:10:56 UTC
Jafit McJafitson wrote:
Thanatos Marathon wrote:
it isn't that we don't think test can impact the warzone control, it is that we don't care about warzone control most of the time.


Ah the old ~~ DIDN'T WANT THAT WARZONE ANYWAY ~~ line


Nah, unlike defending say, Fountain for instance, there is literally no benefit to holding most of the warzone unless you're making a big push for LP which only results in quick spikes in warzone control anyway.
Veskrashen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#171 - 2013-10-21 17:13:03 UTC
Jafit McJafitson wrote:
Thanatos Marathon wrote:
it isn't that we don't think test can impact the warzone control, it is that we don't care about warzone control most of the time.


Ah the old ~~ DIDN'T WANT THAT WARZONE ANYWAY ~~ line


We care about controlling key systems, not about controlling the whole warzone. There's a big difference. Again, we care about:

- Eha
- Vlillirier
- Nennamalia
- Hallanen
- Nisuwa
- Villore

Other than that, it's pretty much not critical to us to own the system.

Oh, and you've most definitely already dropped caps on iHUBS. Your nice big fat armor cruiser / logi fleet in Martoh was there to support your dreads and carriers. Granted, we weren't able to muster an appropriate response, but there's definitely juicy kills to be had during your hub bashes.

Finally, on numbers and doctrines:

You're right, you are flipping systems and learning. We're watching and learning too. We have the advantage of closer reship points, and we aren't married to particular fleet doctrines. We'll continue to enjoy the fights, fair and blobbed to sht, until you manage to take the entire warzone - assuming you last that long. And we'll enjoy coming back from the grave and sticking it in your eye.

You will outfarm us, and that'll make controlling large parts of the warzone very difficult. You'll blob key systems, and that'll make life hard. GalMil's been through all that before, we'll be just fine in the end.

We Gallente have a saying: "CCP created the Gallente Militia to train the Fighters..."
Rovain Sess
Wu Fanged
#172 - 2013-10-21 17:19:33 UTC
Some entities enjoy challenges - is TEST one of these entities? At one time in the distant past BOB was neigh invincible. Then came along a merry band of misfits and scrubs (goons) . Tons was written about their fail abilities, how they couldn't do this, how they couldn't do that. Funny - these days who rules the null sec map.

The question should go as follows. Does Test in its latest incarnation have the organizational will to do what other null turned FW alliances from null who joined FW failed 2 do?

To make history they will need to push CalMil to tier 5 and push the greatest frog orders out of their beloved Lilly Pad strongholds. This of course - if you believe the aforementioned talk - is impossible!

Really?

So Test they have presented the carrot of impossibility. Could your alliance posses balls that big? Can you climb the mountain of they can't do it?

I think that if the answer is yes - it is the result of it being a challenge, an idea that people have a lot of nerve thinking that TEST can't do what it sets its mind 2. Beware the sleeper!

I can see the headlines - eve's sure fire endeavor to fail makes good, and all the Gallente could do was say damn.

Course I can on speculate.
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#173 - 2013-10-21 17:31:22 UTC
Jafit McJafitson wrote:


You overestimate how hard it is to kill TEST capitals. Not that we'd bother dropping caps on an ihub that has 1/10th of the HP as a nullsec sov structure.


Yeah, I said if they decided to.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Veskrashen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#174 - 2013-10-21 17:31:35 UTC
Just an FYI, noone on GalMil side has any illusions of invincibility. We fully acknowledge what an entity as large as TEST, should it be sufficiently motivated and organized, can do with regards to taking key systems from us.

What we question is whether you have the fortitude to go the distance.

Also, keep in mind that GalMil has been here before, more than once. We're used to large power blocs joining CalMil and making a push. There's a reason why systems like Vlill and Nenna have the reputation they do - GalMil earned that reputation through sheer tenacity.

Come if you will. We're looking forward to it. We will drown you in Derptrons until even the Wreck God looks on in horror at the destruction wrought in His glorious name. And once you take that system from our hands, gasping in agony at the effort, we'll make you do it again in the next. And the next. And the next.

Should you continue on unwavering, and snatch that golden ring... we'll take it all back from you, one system at a time.

Because that's what GalMil does.

We Gallente have a saying: "CCP created the Gallente Militia to train the Fighters..."
Tho'mas
Nerds United
#175 - 2013-10-21 18:15:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Tho'mas
I fail at trying to quote certain parts of certain post. So I just gave up and edited this in.
ZheoTheThird
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#176 - 2013-10-21 18:18:51 UTC
Our goal isn't to beat galmil, get to 100% or prove the rest of eve that we have massive menparts, it's to make ISK and get better at eve.

I don't care about your space honor, your killboard, about your blingfits, your boosting alts and your superior strategy, I'll just plex in my triple stabbed merlin and bash IHUBs. If you want to have some kind of a glorious narrative in which you'll come back from the dead after the zombie hordes of TEST took over your ancestor's homelands - sure, go for it. But you're just as ridiculous as that guy defending ladistier because that's where the gallente president lives or something.
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#177 - 2013-10-21 18:25:59 UTC
Never underestimate the power of the blob. TEST is bringing more players into FW than Gallente militia has active pilots (pvp+farmers). Caldari already outnumber us (pvp+farmer), so horribad or not, having TEST in the area is going to "make things very interesting" one way or another.


X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#178 - 2013-10-21 18:28:37 UTC
ZheoTheThird wrote:
But you're just as ridiculous as that guy defending ladistier because that's where the gallente president lives or something.
Jacques Roden is FREE! :D
Courath Al'viendi
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#179 - 2013-10-21 18:36:00 UTC
I'm excited for this 100+ derptron fleet. It will be glorious.
Markus Auralias
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#180 - 2013-10-21 18:51:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Markus Auralias
I think we just moved into tier 2, can someone explain what that means?

Also, I haven't seen us compared to BOB in ages! You're going to make me blush!