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New dev blog: Beauty hides in the shadows

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Dalilus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2011-11-01 18:27:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Dalilus
Outstanding job CCP. The attention put to little details is what makes a game great even if most player never notice it and just say, look at EVE it looks awesome! Add up all the upcoming changes hinted in the winter expansion and I just might get another account.

PS. Dynamic mission engine? No more canned missions?
OblivionDawn
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#42 - 2011-11-01 18:36:34 UTC
Tiger's Spirit wrote:
The most important feature in EVE.
Oh wait 99% of players disable shadows in their client because just slowing their VGA speed ...
Maybe this is the useless CQ part 2.


99%?

Lol, you mean 99% of the people who play EVE on netbooks disable shadows, yeah.

Time to upgrade bro.
Celebris Nexterra
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2011-11-01 18:36:50 UTC
Very, very well done to do this without increasing CPU/GPU load at all. Reminds me of how great the new textures were when they came out, even though they're only on a few ships >.<

SO ready to quit seeing blocky shadows on gates that look like they're from 2003.
Tiger's Spirit
Templars of the Shadows
#44 - 2011-11-01 18:49:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiger's Spirit
OblivionDawn wrote:
Tiger's Spirit wrote:
The most important feature in EVE.
Oh wait 99% of players disable shadows in their client because just slowing their VGA speed ...
Maybe this is the useless CQ part 2.


99%?

Lol, you mean 99% of the people who play EVE on netbooks disable shadows, yeah.

Time to upgrade bro.


Realy ? I think i need to changel my i7 2600k computer and my dual 6950 VGA because you told it.
Maybe i need turning off my hangar view over CQ, or i need to turning on shadows, because that's it the most important options in Eve client. Oh wait what about with the new GUI what CCP promised at least 1 years ago ? But shadows is important things. LOL
Just need a statistic how many player using CQ, how many user using sound, how many user using shadows. I think you would be surprized, because bigger part of Eve player base who dont using them, because those options so useless.
ORCACommander
Obsidian Firelance Technologies
#45 - 2011-11-01 18:57:01 UTC
great improvement. shadows have always irked me in this game. especially since i can identify the ships by their silhouettes.
InVictus Kell
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2011-11-01 18:57:58 UTC
That pic someone posted of their ship shadow on a gate looks great. even the gate looks better.

i play with max settings on my i5-2400 w/ GTX 560 so any chance to give my computer a work out is welcome.

it's amazing, if you fix a bunch of little things, it can add up to some big improvements overall.
OOooole
#47 - 2011-11-01 19:01:42 UTC
OMg we dont need new shadows new music new nebula
we need more ships

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Yvan Ratamnim
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#48 - 2011-11-01 19:15:05 UTC
Callic Veratar wrote:
Tiger's Spirit wrote:
The most important feature in EVE.
Oh wait 99% of players disable shadows in their client because just slowing their VGA speed ...
Maybe this is the useless CQ part 2.


If your computer is so bad you need to disable the shadows due to rendering speed, it might be time to shell out $15 to upgrade.



LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Give me a break dude i have a 60$ card and can run at well over 30fps with all set to high and all effects set to on, only time i turn then down is when i go into a fleet battle tahts gonna have >100 people
Yvan Ratamnim
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#49 - 2011-11-01 19:17:25 UTC
Tiger's Spirit wrote:
OblivionDawn wrote:
Tiger's Spirit wrote:
The most important feature in EVE.
Oh wait 99% of players disable shadows in their client because just slowing their VGA speed ...
Maybe this is the useless CQ part 2.


99%?

Lol, you mean 99% of the people who play EVE on netbooks disable shadows, yeah.

Time to upgrade bro.


Realy ? I think i need to changel my i7 2600k computer and my dual 6950 VGA because you told it.
Maybe i need turning off my hangar view over CQ, or i need to turning on shadows, because that's it the most important options in Eve client. Oh wait what about with the new GUI what CCP promised at least 1 years ago ? But shadows is important things. LOL
Just need a statistic how many player using CQ, how many user using sound, how many user using shadows. I think you would be surprized, because bigger part of Eve player base who dont using them, because those options so useless.


It's called a quick win! They improve overall fidelity in the game for those that dont turn off things that have little to no impact, and improve overall quality visually...

Now redoing the entire UI is a big step requiring a lot of work and testing etc... so ya of course they put that off till later, winter is about quick wins to get eve moving forward again with lots and lots of small things... stop being such a bunghole
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#50 - 2011-11-01 19:20:29 UTC
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#51 - 2011-11-01 19:45:17 UTC
Beauty lies in the engine trails and old cyno effects imo...

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Aineko Macx
#52 - 2011-11-01 19:55:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Aineko Macx
I tested the current sisi build. I noticed two things:
- while the shadows are much better, ship shadows cast on stations don't glide smoothly, they jump from (filtered) pixel to pixel, which is a flaw inherent to the technique used ofc.
- probably not related to shadows at all: Camera movement smoothing is borked, it is very jerky, no matter what interval, or other setting is used.

I remember that quite a while ago, IIRC it was around initial Quantum Rise deployment, you used polygon based shadows for a couple of patches until switching to the current pixel map based ones. What prompted you to change?

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Damion Rayne
Panoptic
#53 - 2011-11-01 20:04:52 UTC
Jason Edwards wrote:
I think your graphics card is rendering ships white.

Oh I get it... CCP is trying to stay with the times like BF3, Rage, and Skyrim and their bad colours.


What? Go away.

Anyway, good on you guys!

ROA
Solhild
Doomheim
#54 - 2011-11-01 20:17:16 UTC
excellent stuff Big smile
Knug LiDi
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#55 - 2011-11-01 20:21:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Knug LiDi
Tiger's Spirit wrote:
OblivionDawn wrote:
Tiger's Spirit wrote:
The most important feature in EVE.
Oh wait 99% of players disable shadows in their client because just slowing their VGA speed ...
Maybe this is the useless CQ part 2.


99%?

Lol, you mean 99% of the people who play EVE on netbooks disable shadows, yeah.

Time to upgrade bro.


Realy ? I think i need to changel my i7 2600k computer and my dual 6950 VGA because you told it.
Maybe i need turning off my hangar view over CQ, or i need to turning on shadows, because that's it the most important options in Eve client. Oh wait what about with the new GUI what CCP promised at least 1 years ago ? But shadows is important things. LOL
Just need a statistic how many player using CQ, how many user using sound, how many user using shadows. I think you would be surprized, because bigger part of Eve player base who dont using them, because those options so useless.


I play on a laptop. dual boxing with all graphic options on max (except post production - it makes things look green) at 1920x1024 and frame rate is pinned at 60 fps. Its a nice laptop, but still. Somehow I doubt 99% of folks are turning everything off.

so, sound on, shadows on, antialiasing on, high shaders on . . . And its just an intel quad core running at 2k.

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Jim Luc
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#56 - 2011-11-01 20:28:59 UTC
Tiger's Spirit wrote:
OblivionDawn wrote:
Tiger's Spirit wrote:
The most important feature in EVE.
Oh wait 99% of players disable shadows in their client because just slowing their VGA speed ...
Maybe this is the useless CQ part 2.


99%?

Lol, you mean 99% of the people who play EVE on netbooks disable shadows, yeah.

Time to upgrade bro.


Realy ? I think i need to changel my i7 2600k computer and my dual 6950 VGA because you told it.
Maybe i need turning off my hangar view over CQ, or i need to turning on shadows, because that's it the most important options in Eve client. Oh wait what about with the new GUI what CCP promised at least 1 years ago ? But shadows is important things. LOL
Just need a statistic how many player using CQ, how many user using sound, how many user using shadows. I think you would be surprized, because bigger part of Eve player base who dont using them, because those options so useless.


Because as we all know, Eve is a Pen And Paper spreadsheet rpg...
Knug LiDi
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#57 - 2011-11-01 20:29:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Knug LiDi
Chribba wrote:
Beauty lies in the engine trails and old cyno effects imo...



New CCP video (part 2 of art video) indicates that engine trails are making a comeback:

http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=4778&tid=1

If only we could fall into a woman's arms

without falling into her hands
Adrian Dixon
Arbitrary Spaceship Destruction
-affliction-
#58 - 2011-11-01 20:31:27 UTC
Good stuff Big smile Hopefully it will also improve the shadow your own ship casts on objects like stations.
Tiger's Spirit
Templars of the Shadows
#59 - 2011-11-01 21:57:00 UTC
Jim Luc wrote:
Tiger's Spirit wrote:
OblivionDawn wrote:
Tiger's Spirit wrote:
The most important feature in EVE.
Oh wait 99% of players disable shadows in their client because just slowing their VGA speed ...
Maybe this is the useless CQ part 2.


99%?

Lol, you mean 99% of the people who play EVE on netbooks disable shadows, yeah.

Time to upgrade bro.


Realy ? I think i need to changel my i7 2600k computer and my dual 6950 VGA because you told it.
Maybe i need turning off my hangar view over CQ, or i need to turning on shadows, because that's it the most important options in Eve client. Oh wait what about with the new GUI what CCP promised at least 1 years ago ? But shadows is important things. LOL
Just need a statistic how many player using CQ, how many user using sound, how many user using shadows. I think you would be surprized, because bigger part of Eve player base who dont using them, because those options so useless.


Because as we all know, Eve is a Pen And Paper spreadsheet rpg...


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Ushra'Khan
#60 - 2011-11-01 22:00:49 UTC
CCP love the new art, can we make it so Lasers that miss, actually do?
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