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[PIE Inc] Regarding those who question the Empress

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Gaven Lok'ri
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#41 - 2013-10-09 03:10:43 UTC
I hate to break it to you, Mr. Karris, but you were merely the last straw. The person whose treacherous ramblings made me decide that a stance needed to be made. Beyond that, you are little more than a pathetic and honorless disgrace to your ancestry.

This statement isn't about you, it is about those who would be tempted to follow you, to give in to the council of Molok and question the Empress who was appointed by all of the correct officials. They need to understand that such a course is not acceptable, that such a course is a failure of the test and a betrayal of God.

To question the Empress is to claim the authority of the Theology Council, the Privy Council, or the Speakers of Truth for one self. Such a usurpation of authority is a massive sin and I pray that my efforts here can help stem this cancerous Gallente idea that it is the place of those of us who should be serving the Empire to question it.

Admiral of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore 24th Imperial Crusade

Holder. Vassal of the Emperor Family
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2013-10-09 03:20:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Fredfredbug4
Why do you heathens mock PIE? Clearly they are launching this initiative to create a list of people to send angry letters to! In proper display of their anger, they won't even use proper postage!

Amarr Victor!

Sarcasm aside, your Empress is not divine, even she knows this. The fact that an Empire of trillions of people is expecting her to be the living embodiment of their God's will is part of why the poor woman is being driven to insanity.

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!
Amann Karris
Doomheim
#43 - 2013-10-09 03:46:46 UTC
Gaven Lok'ri wrote:
I hate to break it to you, Mr. Karris, but you were merely the last straw. The person whose treacherous ramblings made me decide that a stance needed to be made. Beyond that, you are little more than a pathetic and honorless disgrace to your ancestry.

You know nothing of my ancestry. You know nothing of my hardships.

You are correct, however. This is not about me. This was never about me, or the other voices of dissent. It is about the souls you wish to protect from what you perceive as a corrupting influence. I respect that. I honor that. I have known you to be a man of righteousness and of conviction, and your actions here reinforce that view of you.

Regardless of the high esteem I have for you and your organization, I cannot in good conscience stay quiet. Feel free to take whatever steps you wish to try and silence me.

To those who apparently need protecting from such deception:

Face the enemy as a solid wall
For faith is your armor
And through it, the enemy will find no breach
Wrap your arms around the enemy
For faith is your fire
And with it, burn away his evil
- The Scriptures, Amarr Askura 10:3

I stand firm in my faith. I will not allow evil to prevail.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#44 - 2013-10-09 04:18:16 UTC
Speaking against Empress is like it was speaking against Tibus Heth, when he was Executor.
It is a treason.
Show them no mercy.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Rioghal Morgan
Pixel Navigators
AimogMart
#45 - 2013-10-09 04:23:09 UTC
Oh gods. See what you did, PIE? You got Diana Kim to agree with you. Now you know you've well and truly arrived in crazy town.
Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#46 - 2013-10-09 04:25:12 UTC
Rioghal Morgan wrote:
Oh gods. See what you did, PIE? You got Diana Kim to agree with you. Now you know you've well and truly arrived in crazy town.


Is crazy town in any way related to Busy Town?

-Eran
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#47 - 2013-10-09 05:31:35 UTC
Down with this sort of thing! No one likes a tattle tale.


P.S. Your empress is a clone, she's supposedly been seen having heated debates with herself and she dresses funny. Oh, and your deity is just a fairy tale told to frighten small children and the weak-minded. Is that heretical enough? Can I be on the naughty list now? I know I probably am already but, I want to be certain.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#48 - 2013-10-09 05:38:21 UTC
I think that would qualify for a "primitive tribal" list instead. Unfortunately, I can't think of any other person to make you a company there.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Sebastien Starstrider
Everything You Know and Love is Forfeit
#49 - 2013-10-09 06:23:02 UTC
I question the Empress' expertise in intimate bedroom encounters. If she wishes to defend herself, I would be more than willing to judge her competence myself in private.
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#50 - 2013-10-09 06:52:24 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Alright. Inappropriate facetiousness aside, I need to actually ask something here. Your worlds and systems rest in the hands of the Minmatar, your sworn enemy you vowed to bring back under the banner of Amarr, and you're making a list? Why don't you leave that to the MIO, you know...as it's their job? Why do you think they are incapable of handling this?

I don't understand why you're wasting time declaring a new 'list' to be made and handed over to MIO essentially saying I'M TELLING I'M TELLING instead of taking back your worlds. For the love of Gods, I thought this was a joke at first. But no, you're actually doing this. Unbelievable....



Imagine the following scenario:

You're walking along a street when you see a gang of thugs attacking an old lady. You decide that they need to be stopped, but you intervening directly will not help the situation.

Do you contact the police and let them know what's happening, or do you leave it to them, you know, as it's their job?

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Odelya d'Hanguest
Order of St. Severian
#51 - 2013-10-09 07:41:10 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Alright. Inappropriate facetiousness aside, I need to actually ask something here. Your worlds and systems rest in the hands of the Minmatar, your sworn enemy you vowed to bring back under the banner of Amarr, and you're making a list? Why don't you leave that to the MIO, you know...as it's their job? Why do you think they are incapable of handling this?

I don't understand why you're wasting time declaring a new 'list' to be made and handed over to MIO essentially saying I'M TELLING I'M TELLING instead of taking back your worlds. For the love of Gods, I thought this was a joke at first. But no, you're actually doing this. Unbelievable....



Imagine the following scenario:

You're walking along a street when you see a gang of thugs attacking an old lady. You decide that they need to be stopped, but you intervening directly will not help the situation.
Now imagine the following scenario: A military organisation of about one hundred people which is part of a militia, sees a group of thugs attacking an old lady. The military organisation, which consists of trained capsuleers, decides to call the police. Would you call that an example of duty? An example of braveness?

Rodj Blake wrote:
Do you contact the police and let them know what's happening, or do you leave it to them, you know, as it's their job?
What's your job then, Blake?
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#52 - 2013-10-09 07:42:43 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:

Imagine the following scenario:

You're walking along a street when you see a gang of thugs attacking an old lady. You decide that they need to be stopped, but you intervening directly will not help the situation.

Do you contact the police and let them know what's happening, or do you leave it to them, you know, as it's their job?


So advocating an unorthodox idea within the Empire is viewed the same as committing a violent crime against persons? Interesting.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#53 - 2013-10-09 08:06:26 UTC
Odelya d'Hanguest wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Alright. Inappropriate facetiousness aside, I need to actually ask something here. Your worlds and systems rest in the hands of the Minmatar, your sworn enemy you vowed to bring back under the banner of Amarr, and you're making a list? Why don't you leave that to the MIO, you know...as it's their job? Why do you think they are incapable of handling this?

I don't understand why you're wasting time declaring a new 'list' to be made and handed over to MIO essentially saying I'M TELLING I'M TELLING instead of taking back your worlds. For the love of Gods, I thought this was a joke at first. But no, you're actually doing this. Unbelievable....



Imagine the following scenario:

You're walking along a street when you see a gang of thugs attacking an old lady. You decide that they need to be stopped, but you intervening directly will not help the situation.
Now imagine the following scenario: A military organisation of about one hundred people which is part of a militia, sees a group of thugs attacking an old lady. The military organisation, which consists of trained capsuleers, decides to call the police. Would you call that an example of duty? An example of braveness?


"Those who are put on this list will be considered traitors to Amarr by PIE inc and will be treated as such. This list will also be sent to the MIO..."

Sending the list to MIO is secondary.

Anabella Rella wrote:
So advocating an unorthodox idea within the Empire is viewed the same as committing a violent crime against persons? Interesting.


Her Imperial Majesty is the viceroy of God. Challenging her authority is like challenging God's.
Gaven Lok'ri
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#54 - 2013-10-09 08:23:21 UTC
Anabella Rella wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:

Imagine the following scenario:

You're walking along a street when you see a gang of thugs attacking an old lady. You decide that they need to be stopped, but you intervening directly will not help the situation.

Do you contact the police and let them know what's happening, or do you leave it to them, you know, as it's their job?


So advocating an unorthodox idea within the Empire is viewed the same as committing a violent crime against persons? Interesting.


Propagating a soul damning idea is worse than violent crime. Violent crime only destroys the body, heretical ideas destroy the eternal soul's chance at paradise.

Admiral of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore 24th Imperial Crusade

Holder. Vassal of the Emperor Family
TomHorn
Horn Brothers Holdings Inc.
#55 - 2013-10-09 09:10:58 UTC
Horn family admire the stance of PIE inc. against traitors & heretics of the Amarr Empire. If it is possible to have a copy of the list once it is compiled, my family will happily punish any on the list we come across in open space.

As allies to the Amarr Empire we wish you well in your endeavours.
Seriphyn Inhonores
Elusenian Cooperative
#56 - 2013-10-09 09:36:55 UTC
Gotta give this one to Lord Admiral Lok'ri for integrity and consistency. Better to stick to your empire's original beliefs than wishy-washy, Gallente-tainted "interpretations".

After all, the Empire is an absolutist entity. What is said at the top is unambiguously the word of God, and even an atheist can understand that there can be no word higher than the creator of all existence, if one believed in it. Liberal relativism has never been a thing there, so it is Admiral Lok'ri who appears wholesome.
Kyllsa Siikanen
Tuonelan Virta
#57 - 2013-10-09 10:54:51 UTC
Gaven, oh you little drop of sunshine you,

If someone has actual, recorded proof of one of your own - yes, a PIE member - decrying the Empress, the Theology Council, and the Amarrian Faith, would you report them too?

This is fun!

“Crying is all right in its own way while it lasts. But you have to stop sooner or later, and then you still have to decide what to do.” 

― C.S. Lewis 
Andrea Okazon
Laurentson INC
#58 - 2013-10-09 12:09:07 UTC
Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:
Gotta give this one to Lord Admiral Lok'ri for integrity and consistency. Better to stick to your empire's original beliefs than wishy-washy, Gallente-tainted "interpretations".

After all, the Empire is an absolutist entity. What is said at the top is unambiguously the word of God, and even an atheist can understand that there can be no word higher than the creator of all existence, if one believed in it. Liberal relativism has never been a thing there, so it is Admiral Lok'ri who appears wholesome.


I imagine that there is more to the Amarr religion than mindless ranting atop the walls of a hollowed-out fortress, even if -- from the outside -- it is rather difficult to see it.
Cain Aloga
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#59 - 2013-10-09 13:30:00 UTC
This is an Internal matter within the Amarr Empire. Even though they are our sworn enemies, and we are theirs, It is my opinion that this matter be left to them and them alone. I would ask that any Minmatar refrain from further commenting on this topic, as it is neither necessary nor productive.

While our warriors fight for our people's freedom, we in turn should fight for our people's prosperity.
Dahacai Laguz
Rust Creeps
#60 - 2013-10-09 13:36:33 UTC
Having worked on occasion for the Royal Family makes me support this. The Empress' beauty and grace is unrivalled and beckoning even to a heathen such as myself. Had I the faith you possess and it would be an honor to be one of her knights.