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Guaging Interest for Armour Marauder Incursion testing on Singularity
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Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#21 - 2013-10-09 14:28:09 UTC
CCP Ytterbium wrote:
We have some plans regarding the Pirate Ships, but our schedule doesn't have room for them on Rubicon though.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3715017#post3715017

Pirate hulls are not an issue, this patch.

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#22 - 2013-10-09 15:16:42 UTC
Goldiiee wrote:
CCP Ytterbium wrote:
We have some plans regarding the Pirate Ships, but our schedule doesn't have room for them on Rubicon though.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3715017#post3715017

Pirate hulls are not an issue, this patch.


True, but my best guess is they will be hammered in Feb/Mar in the ongoing overhaul of ships.
It will be "soon"
GordonO
BURN EDEN
#23 - 2013-10-09 22:44:42 UTC
i'm game for testing.

... What next ??
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#24 - 2013-10-10 12:16:53 UTC
OK, Folks, I have mailed some of the people that responded, and hope to mail everyone else that has responded to this point.

I would like to have people meet up at the incursion closest to the Amarr system at 21:00 tonight.
I don't know if we will have enough for proper testing, but people can sort out fits, get skills (I hope), and mess about.

I expect there to be more pilots available on the weekend, but if we can get geared up now, it will be easier to get started on the weekend.
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#25 - 2013-10-12 12:52:58 UTC
Any group testing of Incursions by me is now DOA.
It appears I simply cannot get a critical mass pilots in 10 homogeneous ships plus booster.

To those that helped out, thanks for the effort.
For those that have thought "my Incursion Marauders will be fine after Nov 19th", you are in for a rude surprise.
Any number of ships will far outclass the Paladin and Kronos after Nov 19th.
GordonO
BURN EDEN
#26 - 2013-10-13 22:48:05 UTC
didn't get a mail.. but messed around solo for a bit. Any of the marauders can solo tank the VG's, sure you saw that. But take for ever to kill things. Be nice though if we could get faction webs on the test server as the frigs orbit round 12-15km and overheating the web is just too much effort. I suspect with more ships on grid it wouldn't be a problem. Tried the golem, paladin and kronos.

... What next ??
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#27 - 2013-10-14 00:19:49 UTC
GordonO wrote:
didn't get a mail.. but messed around solo for a bit. Any of the marauders can solo tank the VG's, sure you saw that. But take for ever to kill things. Be nice though if we could get faction webs on the test server as the frigs orbit round 12-15km and overheating the web is just too much effort. I suspect with more ships on grid it wouldn't be a problem. Tried the golem, paladin and kronos.


Sorry about no notification. I posted up in the thread about any large testing being DOA, because I could not get the magic number of 10 or 11.

And yeah, the Marauders can tank it, but at huge cost in low slots, mid slots (for cap) and rig slots.All which nerf the hell out of the damage, which kills the use of the hull.
Kate stark
#28 - 2013-10-14 17:34:01 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
And yeah, the Marauders can tank it, but at huge cost in low slots, mid slots (for cap) and rig slots.All which nerf the hell out of the damage, which kills the use of the hull.


especially since damage is what the marauders are in need of in comparison to their pirate counterparts.

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#29 - 2013-10-14 21:10:07 UTC
What's the point in soloing it if you don't get paid? Don't you still need the minimum number of pilots to get a payout?
GordonO
BURN EDEN
#30 - 2013-10-14 21:55:42 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
What's the point in soloing it if you don't get paid? Don't you still need the minimum number of pilots to get a payout?


I don't plan to run incursions this way.. it was just a test for me to see what is possible. I also doubt doing it this way will ever compete with the shiney fleets, even if you have 11 marauders in at the same time.

... What next ??
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#31 - 2013-10-15 02:06:16 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
What's the point in soloing it if you don't get paid? Don't you still need the minimum number of pilots to get a payout?


Yeah, no one solo's an Incursion, but CCP is ramming the concept of a "solo tank" down our throats. By going into Bastion mode, you are forced to solo tank.
That is what is so galling.

By fitting for Bastion mode, you nuke your DPS (don't try to suggest that beams or Pulses with Scorch at 100 km is superior effective damage than hammering a a bonused double-webbed target at Pulse optimal with faction MF or Conflag).

By not fitting for Bastion mode, you DPS is also nuked because of the destruction of the drone bay and the removal of the web bonus.

Either way, it is a huge loss for Incursion Marauders.
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