EVE General Discussion

A guy's car broke down, so he took it to the car mechanic.

"Sir, my car broke down. Can you fix it?"
"Sure, let me take a look."

The mechanic opened up the car, examined the engine for ten minutes, then took out a hammer and hit it once. The guy sat in the car, started it up - and it was working again.

"Excellent, how much do I owe you?"
"That would be $101."
"$101 for one strike of a hammer?"
"No, it's $1 for the strike. The $100 is for knowing where I needed to strike."

If Dust514 was PC I'd be all over it. I tried the console stuff but I felt more familiar with the whole EVE nature/foundation that flavors Dust. It seemed to be to over the top for a console only game.

Three times.

Anyone who's seen the warp speed comparison videos knows there will be a ton of content created by this patch after release by that alone, not even taking into account the modular POS stuff. But, like James said, they need to understand how content works in EVE.

In other (themepark) games, content is provided by the developers. They fashion a new dungeon, or warzone, or quests or faction or pandas, whatever. The players then explore and experience this new content and hopefully don't get bored with it before the next expansion. They usually do, players play through content much faster than developers can design, code, and test it. SWTOR was in development for 8 years. First level 50 was about 2 weeks after launch, for a grand total of 4 months worth of content.

In EVE, content of this nature is fairly uncommon, and usually receive a lukewarm response at best. Examples would be Incursions, factional warfare, and Incarna. The first two are pretty much utilized more for ISK than enjoyment (there are exceptions for factional warfare of course, but the vast majority are farmers). The last...well, people remember the community response to that. Suffice it to say, this kind of "content" doesn't jive well with EVE.

Now, in a sandbox game, content is provided by the players, not the developers. You're not riding a rollercoaster that someone else built, you're making a sand castle. Or maybe you're tearing it down. Or you're burying some treasure, or finding it, or looking for shells, or playing volleyball, or...you get the idea.

In game terms, this means that the developers hand us the tools to create content, and say "Go forth and work wonders." CCP doesn't build a superfaction that controls vast swaths of 0.0, they let they players do that and create things like titans, jump bridges, and player made stations to facilitate this. They don't just add new ships that do X% more damage but require X more skillpoints, they make sure each ship has a purpose in the meta. Then they add things like the depots and siphons that suddenly open up new options. Now you've the ability for some small homeless null entities to jet around 0.0, using depots to refit to meet different doctrines, and dropping/checking siphons to make some ISK. If they use small frigates, they just got a LOT harder to catch.

It's an amazing amount of potential and like any other good EVE expansion, the content will be provided by the players, not the developers.

There is no new content.

There are new tools

That is why this expansion to me is the first encouraging step from CCP in the last 4 expansion.

And it's totally pay-to-win. Just you wait till you see how many golden space depots I will buy with my plex and place around stations.

And more difficult than writing 100 pages of code is predicting how changing one line of code will affect the choices of 500,000 independent but linked actors.

You know, for me this is what EvE is supposed to be about. Everyone is hard at work theorycrafting all of these new camps and tactics... when I started playing that's just how the game always was. For the last few years I've known every camp and seen pretty much every trick pulled. You always know pretty much what people are up to and what to expect. Boredom does weird things to pods... the other night I lost a Nighthawk faction fit outside of Jita 4-4 because I had a few to drink and just thought "f it, I'll shoot that random guy there and see how long I can tank the locals" (answer: longer than I thought, but not that long). Now, here we are, with things having changed SO much that you won't be able to assume anything for a long time. It brings back the fun... for me anyway.

The new interceptors actually scare me. They're that ridiculously powerful.

... waits for the "siphon" variant module that lets me "liberate" ru]rare ships [/u]from any hangar...

i'm quite excited about new boats, 'rauder changes, and the deployables but... it hardly counts as an expansion? CCP's added ships in by routine patches so...