Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Supported, but I suggest they only use a maximum of 1 link per hull while still being able to decently fit the rest of the hull.

There needs to be a reason to use heavier and slower ships. Two links is pushing the envelope, but I'll support that if it's as difficult to do as fitting twin bubblers on an interdictor. A single T2 destroyer should not be able to fit three links, ever.

Hull ideas:

Kaalakiota Corax (Black & Red)
Creodron Algos (Pearlescent Green/Blue)
Viziam Dragoon (Green & Gold)
Core Complexion Talwar (Black with Blue lights)

If your frigate & destroyer skirmish fleet in FW can't have command ships due to speed and gate restrictions, theirs can't either.

If you believe that warfare links are overpowered you should be rejoicing about the ability to hit & run without the hindrance of an overpowered game mechanic, not looking for ways to keep the overpowered mechanic in your small, nimble fleets.

Don't get me wrong... I have a love-hate relationship with regards to warfare links. I dislike them on principle... but they have often given me edges in engagements I had no business surviving, much less winning. And I don't see them being removed anytime soon given that several ships are specifically centered around them (I would personally like to see them removed almost altogether).

That said... the reason I have brought up (see: rehashed) this idea is because I do believe that similar and/or balanced (but not equal) options should be available to [almost] every combat style in EVE.
Sure, you can nano-fit a T3 for a frigate/destroyer gang... but it won't keep up in warp and certainly won't be able to fly or employ similar tactics the rest of the gang can... making it more of a target than it already is. Then there is the "price tag" issue (bringing a ship worth more than the entire gang several times over would be a no-go for most).


Now I personally like what others have said here where these ships would be limited to fitting 1 Warfare Link with no ability to fit any more. Given the power of boosting that would be a fair trade-off and force people to consider what bonus they would find most important; speed, longer points/webs, tank, etc.

I'd like to see small ganglinks that can be fit to frigates and destroyers (only the ones that allow them of course) that would have offensive bonuses instead of defensive bonuses. There would be no need to focus fire on the light command ship to ensure the fleet is killable, so that might keep them alive longer. It would also be good for small skirmish fleets doing hit-and-run tactics. They could have a pretty short range too, like 25km or something. The big command ships can be all about massive fleets and whatnot, with their range being the whole grid.

I think that goes a little beyond the scope of the thread here (sorry if that sounds like a cop-out... they're actually interesting ideas but would require another thread).

All I'm proposing here is a Tech 2 Destroyer than can run a limited amount of Warfare Links, nothing more or less.

Something I've felt the need to complain about as well. I have no issues with links going ongrid - I support it. But not if smaller ship classes wont have their own command ships. Adding these different classes will make boosting more obtainable for lower level players as well as allow for more dynamic options for players - especially those in Lowsec and FW.

No, just no.

Frigates, Destroyers and hell even T1 Cruisers should be able to hold their own just fine against other Frigates, Destroyers and Cruisers; while I certainly advocate the idea that there needs to be more destroyers and maybe a few more frigate hulls, inventing another link ship just seems wasteful, pointless and will probably cause more harm than good.

Shameless self-bumping.

A bump for yes.

A smaller and faster CS sounds perfect to go with all these deadly cepter/AF/EAF fleets.

And the notion that it can only boost for a squad and not a whole fleet seems like a sound idea to keep it from overlapping the CSes too much.

Maybe a smaller bonus too.

It'd be kind of unfortunate if something like this didn't happen after links go on grind. Frigate gangs are already weighed down substantially if they want to bring links along, which puts them at a pretty heavy relative disadvantage compared to heavier gangs that are running links. Basically, frigates can either bring linked and trade in the primary advantage of running frigates, or they can not bring them and be at a pretty egregious disadvantage when trying to engage gangs of larger ships.

(Of course, I'd rather they axed links entirely, but that's clearly not going to happen).