Ships & Modules

Excited to say that I'll be hunting in Destroyers soon.

For to long they have been the joke of the lower end line up. I remember working so hard for my first Dessy, a Cormorant and thought that it was amazing in the lvl1 missions, only to lose it time and time again in lvl 2's (mind you this was after Emperian Age came out). The fitting frustrated me to no end and eventually I moved on to the drake.

Even now I would never consider pvping in a Destroyer (except the Thrasher ) but with the coming buff any toon with half decent gunnery skills can field an effective high dps low sig platform. This is something that is badly needed with the new Tier 3 BC's fast ships able to move in and take out much larger ships will signal more diverse fleet types and tactical wings if you will (At least this is my hope that it'll be this way).

More likely the tier 3 BC's will be used as suicide ganking platforms and anti-BS/Cap in fast moving Cruiser fleets. I sincerely hope that the new list of buffs and nerfs (Thank god they nerfed the dramiel!!). Will usher in a new age of diverse fleet warfare and small gang tactics.

I for one have already started buying more destroyer hulls than I usually do in anticipation for some amazing fights.

The coer is highly underrated in light of how good the Thrasher is. But I love my Coer - especially with beams. . .

Coercer is pitifully short on mid slots. No amarr ship should only have one.

Ever ship should have one basic point that doesn't take a slot...

Time to dust off the Cat.

Yeah the CAt has always had the option of being the big stick in a light fleet, and it can really lay the hurt on when you just need to melt a larger targets before his friends can show up. It'll lose a bit of the sleeper status that made it work so well in this role, but its a fair tradeoff.

Its also pretty fun with rails. For ***** and giggles, try a 75mm gatling rail setup. It sounds awesome, does decent damage and allows a versatile fit.

Of course the real limitation of any Destroyer in light warfare is still going to be warp speed. The cruiser warp speed is still going to make FC's want to leave you behind as they try to outrun heavier fleets while roaming deep in enemy space. Destroyers could use a warp speed increase as well to be truly viable.

Its the lack of mids that is the only problem with the coercer and catalyst.

The Thrasher with damage rigs will be closer to 450ish DPS. In all honesty it should lose one turret hardpoint to bring the other dessies up to par. It's the only destroyer to get a damage bonus in addition to the tracking and optimal bonus. Any other Minmatar ship that gets a straight damage bonus is limited in total number of turrets. Hurricane - 6. Tempest - 6. Etc.

The Cormorant should always be fitted with rails too. 100 DPS at 70km sounds anemic but that is effectively a no-fly zone for interceptors - which is the point.

The damage bonus throws it out of whack into overpowered territory though. There's no reason to fly a coercer or catalyst over a thrasher. It's faster, has better range. The DPS advantage of the Amarr and Gallente destroyers is anemic at best. That's an issue.

I do agree with you for what you say. I think it would be best if both the coercer and catalyst had one turret slot removed and given a 25% damage bonus. The thrasher has enough fitting since it needs to only fit 7 turrets and do more dps than 8 unbonused guns.

Both Destroyers need more cpu/pg, they are lacking due to how demanding it is to fit 8 lasers or blasters.

I would favor swapping a highslot or lowslot from the coercer for a midslot.

The catalyst would be good with a damage bonus instead of a falloff bonus, with the fitting requirements lowered for hybrids, I see it being much easier to fit in the future.

The coercer really needs a damage bonus, problem is that it already has its bonus taken by cap usage bonus.