EVE General Discussion

In essence at that point CCP is giving kickbacks to a company for spending RL money on the product. Now that's something that happens in several industries and in a real world business is often characterised as corruption (a rebate of $100 for buying a server is very different to this and would depend on assorted factors but for me the fact it was secret and underhand certainly suggests a lack of probity from the people involved).

Moreover, were that to be the case, where are the kickbacks for TEST (back when they were huge) or the CFC, or Brave Newbies and RvB, or Eve Uni, or EveMon for helping to stop people quit because of Eve's terrible certs that are near-useless for planning a training plan. Or Eve Fit for letting us work out what to blow up in, or...etc. etc.

Once again there are far, far more worthy recipients than Somerblink, unless of course this is outright a kickback to say thanks to Somerblink for generating more revenue. In which case I think ethically there's a line that's been crossed there, and moreover it suggests the degree of gambling addiction with somer blink is far higher than I thought (though it certainly exists, having encountered two people who spend far more rl money than they can afford because they 'might win that rorqual').



You're taking the contrary assumption 'but what if it isn't true, then...' without yourself providing any evidence for your assertion, so you're simply rabble rousing here. But let's look at the article's language and see what it has to tell us:



So right from the first paragraph, we have that TMC is not stating that this categorically happened but that it 'apparently' happened.

This is described as a leaked email: http://i.imgur.com/Ekjk1sd.jpg

Here we have TMC concealing their sources, but providing the evidence to the reader so they can make their own deductions (something actual journalists do far too little of in the modern media age).

Then we have:


Once again the language is clear with regard to TMCs position on this.



And again, TMC is making clear the publicly known facts while also covering that it may transpire that CCP has secretly been giving these ships away to other people as well.

And lastly, as many other people have managed to do, you could have directly asked Somer Blink representatives if it was true... From the chat discussion in their channel earlier following the news story breaking, you'd have had your answer already (hint, yes).

Edit: Forgot the most important part of criticising your argument, could you please demonstrate for the class where Sun Win called for any action? They did what news sites do around the world, they reported on an emerging story, they went to some length to make clear facts they knew from those which were believed or suggested. So given you now appear to have done exactly what you erroneously accused TMC of doing, I presume you'll be handing yourself over to the police of whatever jurisdiction it is you think those laws apply in?

Define "real data". I mean, we know it's true if the guy who is second in command confirmed it via PM.

And frankly, CCP does not have a reason good enough for me. I don't even need to read the article to know I'm quitting eve.

If it was not true, CCP would be posting the "NOT BE TOLERATED" blog already including the bans that resulted from such a blatant lie and slander.

But nothing.

But honestly, all of that aside, you guys have to try to remember that his is just a video game, and CCP runs it. They can do whatever they want, favor whomever they want, give and take whatever they want.

Somer Mahm is winning the meta game of Eve. Yes, that does mean you are losing. Cry me a river.

If only there was some way we could read the persons PM's who confirmed it.
Almost like some way to try and catch spies, but in this case used to verify the spy was telling the truth.
If there was such a way, I think I would call it.... the API system. With a mask for Mail Messages.....

That's a pretty good verification at that point that the PM from the Somer Blink leader actually occurred.
Though that PM doesn't actually confirm the scorpions were issued.
That would need an Assets list verification..... Hmmm.......

So yea. Real Data. Provided using real systems, that actually exist. So we can all view the raw data ourselves and see the truth.

Ban whoever wrote that article

"Let's just ban everyone and pretend this will go away"

yeah see how far that gets you CCP

In fairness that is traditionally their MO.

...I would know.

Who the **** is going to release their full API to you? (Spoiler: no one)

Also, the fact that Somer employees have confirmed it in their channel (pretty much any of them when asks) should be proof enough.

Lets see: NPC forum troll stating everyone is jealous and crying. Mandatory mention of Mittani, everyone gb2wow.
Yes, everything is there.