EVE General Discussion

Seriously, it's getting beyond pathetic.

Delete the Scorpions, fire the CCP employees involved with this mess and ban everyone from somer blink. Problem solved.

You really don't get it....
Public or secret, it changes nothing : if this was public we would still find it unfair, see what has happened with somergate 1.
Your CSM colleague in another thread fail the same way than you to understand this basic fact.
In fact they all failed to answer our main concern.
You CSM have been created after a similar scandal to avoid that it happens again, and now you are as effective and dynamic as a piece of butter and have no wish at all to put in danger your position of CCP's spokespersons.

All what you are able to tell us is :
1) we cannot speak because the NDA
2) even when it's not under the NDA, we don't want to tell you, "for your own good" (words from another of your colleagues).
3) CCP is the boss, they can do what they want and we have nothing to say.

What it shows is that we can't rely on you to defend us players against CCP's skulduggeries.

CCP can do what it likes with its promotional internet spaceships, but why give them away in secret? Not much promotion there.
Why did SOMER receive them in secret? The way the leaked Mahm e-mail is written it implies that SOMER were asked to keep their gift low profile.

Are CCP deliberately trying to create scandals to get more publicity?

Interesting people don't even check facts before posting on a news outlet.

Autumnries Mahm is an impersonator, he has been spamming trade chat with a scam all of last two days.



Woops, my bad, I need glasses :)

if this pans out to be true, it's very disappointing news.

I'm starting to regret buying a year's subscription for this game. What I should have done was develop external software (websites, industry calcs, spreadsheets, market bots, mining bots) in order to not only rake in insane amounts of ISK no paying subscriber will ever be able to match, but also get REWARDED for it for providing "game content".

I've seen more game content from spammers, bots and ISK sellers than these guys. Can I get a refund for the remaining of the 1 year subscription I bought?

That's fine, give them a tour of the CCP offices, send them a megathron model, have them go drinking with their good buddy Navigator, give them actual cash. None of that would effect the integrity of the game we all pay for one way or another. Spawning masses of in-game crap might seem the quick, easy and low cost option but it hurts the EVE brand if the sandbox is a lie and we're actually playing a game with handpicked winners.

Dear Trebor, do try to keep up.

It is not the secrecy etc that is the main issue, bad as that is.

It is the fact that CCP is favouring a player corp.

As bad as I am at Eve, I like to think that at least we are all playing by the same rules and those who do well, do so by their own efforts, not their own efforts and some help from CCP.

I would suggest that the CSM take this up with CCP, but they seem to ignore you as a group.

What's striking about the entire situation involving SOMER is not so much that they're being gifted items, it's the lack of gifted items to people and groups that have been in the game longer and done much much more to actually promote the game by encouraging, teaching, providing tools & education to play the game. They get nothing, and many of them do it as a charity to CCP who is too ******* lazy to do it themselves.

Honestly, if I were one of these people who ran a fansite, I'd shut it down. I would consider this a slap in the face. If major portions of game content, and lets face it, most of the content for the game is meta and player developed, disappeared like the market sites, the online tutorials, the system/corp/alliance information sites the game would lose all but basic playability. I can't play the game without utilizing at least 3 player developed and ran sites a day who do it for zero commercial profit. If they weren't available I seriously don't know how I would play the game.

If I setup PI, off to Eve-uni's site. If I do some market research, off to eve-central or eve-market (my own personal spreadsheets pull from these sites). If I'm tooling around w-space, off to wormnav and siggy is a must have. Or nullsec/losec then its dotlan. If I'm setting up some new ships, over to EFT. Setting up a skill plan, Evemon (though BC does it for profit), but then there's also EveHQ which afaik is non-profit. If I'm running intel on a person a see in space, any of the plethora of kill-boards to get more info of ship fittings, groups, etc, etc, etc.

Seems to me, shooting the monument is just so Incarna, perhaps the players need to protest by asking the creators of the content that makes the game actually playable to coordinate a blackout in protest.