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S-Market - Has Entered Testing
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Adarics
Academy of EVE
#21 - 2013-10-05 20:34:41 UTC
@ the Raven idea above. No you missunderstand.

Lets say the Raven is 100 MIL on the In Game Market, so Its about 65 MIL on the S-Market. Lets also say there are 42 Available.

So if you sold it on the In-Game Market and Players knew they could buy it at a fixed price of 65 MiL do you think they would still pay 100 MIL for that item? Or would you have to drop the price to keep up? Think about it. You would sell it alot lower, effectivlly dropping the market prices.

Since our Items are Fixed in Price, everyone can rely on the cost and value.

Being able to do this on a consistant and stable stream of Quanities makes this work. Which we have the system for this in place. As to how we get the products and are able to offer them so cheap, .. well consider that our Trade Secret.


@ Buying Items on the Market later, Does not work either as our pricing is Almost 30 - 50% lower. We would take huge losses from this.


@ Selling it all to one person if Someone could actually buy it all, would defeat the purpose. Having people know they can buy items 50% off of In-Game Prices with a 0 Risk Contract makes all the difference. As why would you spend so much more for an item if you can get it as such a low cost. It effects the seller and buyer InGame if the Item can be bought at lower prices else where.

The whole math makes sense until you start trying to figure out how we are getting so many quanities of each item, and it would seem we are taking massive losses just to lower the market prices.

Which is Fine, it does not need to be explained. Consider that our little trade secret.


@ 0 Risk Contracts - No way of attempting to steal. As for Business Partners there are a few of them, but we have a system going into place that has not been tried or done yet on a large scale or for all on that manner within EvE Online.

Of couse no system would ever be fool proof, but we are going to do something new.




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Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2013-10-05 21:03:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Vera Algaert
you guys need to shut up.

this is why we can't have nice things (like 65m Ravens).

.
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#23 - 2013-10-05 21:50:08 UTC
Tigerras
Smash Incorporated
#24 - 2013-10-06 00:06:36 UTC
Adarics wrote:
@ the Raven idea above. No you missunderstand.

Lets say the Raven is 100 MIL on the In Game Market, so Its about 65 MIL on the S-Market. Lets also say there are 42 Available.

So if you sold it on the In-Game Market and Players knew they could buy it at a fixed price of 65 MiL do you think they would still pay 100 MIL for that item? Or would you have to drop the price to keep up? Think about it. You would sell it alot lower, effectivlly dropping the market prices.

Since our Items are Fixed in Price, everyone can rely on the cost and value.

Being able to do this on a consistant and stable stream of Quanities makes this work. Which we have the system for this in place. As to how we get the products and are able to offer them so cheap, .. well consider that our Trade Secret.


@ Buying Items on the Market later, Does not work either as our pricing is Almost 30 - 50% lower. We would take huge losses from this.


@ Selling it all to one person if Someone could actually buy it all, would defeat the purpose. Having people know they can buy items 50% off of In-Game Prices with a 0 Risk Contract makes all the difference. As why would you spend so much more for an item if you can get it as such a low cost. It effects the seller and buyer InGame if the Item can be bought at lower prices else where.

The whole math makes sense until you start trying to figure out how we are getting so many quanities of each item, and it would seem we are taking massive losses just to lower the market prices.

Which is Fine, it does not need to be explained. Consider that our little trade secret.


@ 0 Risk Contracts - No way of attempting to steal. As for Business Partners there are a few of them, but we have a system going into place that has not been tried or done yet on a large scale or for all on that manner within EvE Online.

Of couse no system would ever be fool proof, but we are going to do something new.






Ok, even if you have the manufacturing power to drop the price of even one item to ridiculously low levels, it still makes zero sense to do this. You are missing out on billions by doing it this way.


What I really see happening:

Shop is set up, providing both instant buy and contract access.

You order something on contract, to be safe and secure. Only to receive a message saying "sorry, we are sold out on that item, someone with instant buy got it before you"

after about three of these messages, you decide to buy them with direct deposit. So you deposit a small amount of isk. You get your one item, so you think "ok, let me buy something bigger", deposit a couple billion, and then bam, your money is gone. Repeate a bunch of times, and profit.

Otherwise, people will buy up all your stock on contract, and dump it on jita , not even making a dent in the market.
Florian Bao
Black Box Technologies
#25 - 2013-10-06 00:40:52 UTC
If you go live, please send all of your 0 risk contracts to me.

Thank you

(i was first. everyone else get out!)
Tigerras
Smash Incorporated
#26 - 2013-10-06 00:49:36 UTC
Florian Bao wrote:
If you go live, please send all of your 0 risk contracts to me.

Thank you

(i was first. everyone else get out!)



Pretty sure Liz beat you.
Daxyte
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2013-10-07 19:34:53 UTC
The OP isn't testing his website, he's testing his scam.

Based on the comments here, you have a bit of work to do on the REASONS why it isn't a scam.
Joan Greywind
The Lazy Crabs
#28 - 2013-10-08 09:05:46 UTC
Tigerras wrote:
Adarics wrote:
@ the Raven idea above. No you missunderstand.

Lets say the Raven is 100 MIL on the In Game Market, so Its about 65 MIL on the S-Market. Lets also say there are 42 Available.

So if you sold it on the In-Game Market and Players knew they could buy it at a fixed price of 65 MiL do you think they would still pay 100 MIL for that item? Or would you have to drop the price to keep up? Think about it. You would sell it alot lower, effectivlly dropping the market prices.

Since our Items are Fixed in Price, everyone can rely on the cost and value.

Being able to do this on a consistant and stable stream of Quanities makes this work. Which we have the system for this in place. As to how we get the products and are able to offer them so cheap, .. well consider that our Trade Secret.


@ Buying Items on the Market later, Does not work either as our pricing is Almost 30 - 50% lower. We would take huge losses from this.


@ Selling it all to one person if Someone could actually buy it all, would defeat the purpose. Having people know they can buy items 50% off of In-Game Prices with a 0 Risk Contract makes all the difference. As why would you spend so much more for an item if you can get it as such a low cost. It effects the seller and buyer InGame if the Item can be bought at lower prices else where.

The whole math makes sense until you start trying to figure out how we are getting so many quanities of each item, and it would seem we are taking massive losses just to lower the market prices.

Which is Fine, it does not need to be explained. Consider that our little trade secret.


@ 0 Risk Contracts - No way of attempting to steal. As for Business Partners there are a few of them, but we have a system going into place that has not been tried or done yet on a large scale or for all on that manner within EvE Online.

Of couse no system would ever be fool proof, but we are going to do something new.






Ok, even if you have the manufacturing power to drop the price of even one item to ridiculously low levels, it still makes zero sense to do this. You are missing out on billions by doing it this way.


What I really see happening:

Shop is set up, providing both instant buy and contract access.

You order something on contract, to be safe and secure. Only to receive a message saying "sorry, we are sold out on that item, someone with instant buy got it before you"

after about three of these messages, you decide to buy them with direct deposit. So you deposit a small amount of isk. You get your one item, so you think "ok, let me buy something bigger", deposit a couple billion, and then bam, your money is gone. Repeate a bunch of times, and profit.

Otherwise, people will buy up all your stock on contract, and dump it on jita , not even making a dent in the market.


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