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POCO in Hi Sec and no empire standing required
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Nocxi
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-10-04 00:55:06 UTC
I would like a dev to explain why there is no required standing planned to place a POCO in Hi Sec. How is it that an emipre has a problem with you placing a POS in 0.5 with a standing of 4.90 towards them to do research and production, but is fine with a corp/alliance with a -10.0 standing with them place a POCO in 1.0 space? Yes in game play it really only effects players, but means they would alow that -10.0 standing corp/alliance to tax exports and imports of their people and planets. I like the idea of POCO, but why are we going to throw standings out the window for this, but not anything else?
Mocam
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-10-04 01:09:17 UTC
Good point if this is the case but where did you read that there won't be standings involved? I haven't found much info on these changes yet.
Nocxi
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-10-04 01:15:05 UTC
There has been several reply from other players saying no standing required, and I am assuming if there was it would have been in the last Dev Blog that talks about everthing else but standing requirements.
Nocxi
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-10-04 01:20:19 UTC
This is what has been said by the devs in a Dev Blog...

"Manufacturing and successfully deploying a Customs Office requires two main steps with different material needs.

Manufacturing the Customs Office Gantry:
Skill requirement: Industry V
Integrity Response Drones: 5
Nano-Factory: 10
Organic Mortar Applicators: 10
Sterile Conduits: 14
Capital Construction Parts: 1
Upgrade to Customs Office:
Broadcast Node: 8
Recursive Computing Module: 8
Self-Harmonizing Power Core: 8
Wetware Mainframe: 8 "

No mention of standings requirements.
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-10-04 01:21:52 UTC
You're right, they should get rid of the standings requirements for moons too.

Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#6 - 2013-10-04 01:22:12 UTC
BOOM SHAKALAKA

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Mocam
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-10-04 01:44:46 UTC
Varius Xeral wrote:
You're right, they should get rid of the standings requirements for moons too.


Out side of highsec - got a gun? Go take it. In highsec - got a gun? Watch out for CONCORD. It's a different environment and has different rules - just like lowsec is different from w-space which is different than ...
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-10-04 02:13:59 UTC
Mocam wrote:
Varius Xeral wrote:
You're right, they should get rid of the standings requirements for moons too.


Out side of highsec - got a gun? Go take it. In highsec - got a gun? Watch out for CONCORD. It's a different environment and has different rules - just like lowsec is different from w-space which is different than ...


Naw, not anymore.

Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal
Kedar Lwmys
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-10-04 02:23:42 UTC
So what happens if someone blows up the customs house, and nobody builds a new one?
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-10-04 02:43:43 UTC
Kedar Lwmys wrote:
So what happens if someone blows up the customs house, and nobody builds a new one?


Guess.

Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal
Lipbite
Express Hauler
#11 - 2013-10-04 03:48:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Lipbite
Nocxi wrote:
why are we going to throw standings out the window for this, but not anything else?

Because this feature designed as yet another source of free money for big alliances which don't have ability and time to grind standing.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#12 - 2013-10-04 04:09:47 UTC
Varius Xeral wrote:
Mocam wrote:
Varius Xeral wrote:
You're right, they should get rid of the standings requirements for moons too.

Out side of highsec - got a gun? Go take it. In highsec - got a gun? Watch out for CONCORD. It's a different environment and has different rules - just like lowsec is different from w-space which is different than ...

Naw, not anymore.

Even if the empires are ~losing their grasp on power~

CONCORD remains an invincible ultimate god of eve online

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Snagletooth Johnson
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-10-04 05:15:13 UTC
Nocxi wrote:
This is what has been said by the devs in a Dev Blog...

"Manufacturing and successfully deploying a Customs Office requires two main steps with different material needs.

Manufacturing the Customs Office Gantry:
Skill requirement: Industry V
Integrity Response Drones: 5
Nano-Factory: 10
Organic Mortar Applicators: 10
Sterile Conduits: 14
Capital Construction Parts: 1
Upgrade to Customs Office:
Broadcast Node: 8
Recursive Computing Module: 8
Self-Harmonizing Power Core: 8
Wetware Mainframe: 8 "

No mention of standings requirements.


You do realize those are manufacturing requirements to build a gantry and a poco and have nothing to do with actually deploying them.
Mhax Arthie
Doomheim
#14 - 2013-10-04 06:31:20 UTC
Cosmos sites are pretty popular for the sec alliances these days, I even saw few guys from BL which was a very nice surprise. I would love to see BL involved in this drama, there would be rivers of tears :P
Draydin Warsong
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-10-04 08:04:24 UTC
Nocxi wrote:
I would like a dev to explain why there is no required standing planned to place a POCO in Hi Sec. How is it that an emipre has a problem with you placing a POS in 0.5 with a standing of 4.90 towards them to do research and production, but is fine with a corp/alliance with a -10.0 standing with them place a POCO in 1.0 space? Yes in game play it really only effects players, but means they would alow that -10.0 standing corp/alliance to tax exports and imports of their people and planets. I like the idea of POCO, but why are we going to throw standings out the window for this, but not anything else?


Wow I never thought of this....this is a really good point. Should have the same standings requirements as POSes.
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#16 - 2013-10-04 08:12:00 UTC
Kedar Lwmys wrote:
So what happens if someone blows up the customs house, and nobody builds a new one?


Then there is no customs house.... Rocket Science!

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#17 - 2013-10-04 11:56:39 UTC
Maybe because corps that do have the proper faction standings are usually massive, risk-averse 1-man carebear operations that do nothing but grind L4's all day? I don't know a single corp that is elegable for hisec POS anchorage, and not one of these typical standing-grinded 1-man tax havens.
Rengerel en Distel
#18 - 2013-10-04 12:31:05 UTC
I too would like corps to have 10.0 faction standing to put up a POCO in a 1.0 system. That will nerf the feature even more.

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
ACE McFACE
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-10-04 13:48:50 UTC
Kedar Lwmys wrote:
So what happens if someone blows up the customs house, and nobody builds a new one?

You'll be using the Planetary Rocket that no one uses to move stuff.

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
RomeStar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-10-04 14:57:07 UTC
Inxentas Ultramar wrote:
Maybe because corps that do have the proper faction standings are usually massive, risk-averse 1-man carebear operations that do nothing but grind L4's all day? I don't know a single corp that is elegable for hisec POS anchorage, and not one of these typical standing-grinded 1-man tax havens.



you sound mad bro tell us where the bad carebear corp touched you?

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