EVE General Discussion

Malbrick did a lot of leg work, far more than I could.
And his range was very very large, from 100 billion/month to 2 TRILLION/month, in taxes.

It would be very useful, and dead easy for CCP to simply give the community an aggregate value of the taxes for all of high sec.
And as far as you suggesting it is an open game, it is impossible for an individual to nail that number down, especially since one can only estimate how many players utilize a planet, let alone for every planet in high sec.

CCP is the ONLY one who has the current value of the taxes.

I like forums.

I just dont sypathize with the general public that post in here.

But the reads entertain me.

You understand that there is no “pie” here, right? That the tax rate the NPCs charge will not change? That the only pie cake is what the players themselves create, which will either be small (due to useful and low tax rates so that people use the planet in question) or non-existent (due to uselessly high tax rates so people don't use the planet). This cake is nothing that CCP can give us any numbers on since it doesn't exist yet and since it is outside of CCP's control.


Oh, and last time we got any numbers on the NPC part, it was 700bn a month across all of EVE… so unless players want to tax themselves out of any kind of PI income, the player-created cake will most likely be in the low hundreds — most of which will simply be the margin between the old and new commodity base costs. A truly pitiful sum.

Heres a titbit for the 'ohnoes gewns will take everything' crowd

We as an alliance have been concentrating on gathering POCOs in lowsec for the best part of two and a half years, spending massive amounts on gantrys and upgrades, not to mention capital fuel to grind the structures and titan bridges to defend them when they got attacked. Want to know what percentage we managed to get after all that effort and expenditure? Less than 10% and bear in mind this is in lowsec where its way easier to actually project the forces required while still being able to protect them.

Yes Goons are larger than us by an order of magnitude but bear in mind theyre operating in an environment where they cant leverage those numbers anywhere near as well as they can in nullsec. I know goons love to **** with people for lolz and dont really care about money but for the amount of work theyd have to put in in a location they dont normally operate in beyond the gank squads the return compared to something like ramping up freighter ganking or ice interdicting is miniscule.

Note I'm not saying they wont take any at all, obviously thats a dumb idea, just that people are massively overreacting because of one entity that would have to make the biggest logistical effort in the history of EVE for returns which can be best described as miniscule.

And thats something I just dont see happening.

You know, a smart person wouldn't be going "Waaagh grr gewns will take ALL highsec planets and leave us with nothing ohhno!"

Said smart person would be thinking "Hmm, what items are bottlenecks for important PI products. Now how many of those planets are out there? Would it be possible to cartel those?"

After that, the smart person would start screwing with the market for the best return on investment when Rubicon drops, and wouldn't be posting conspiracy theories on the forums.

oi! get back to bumping miners

nah, just figure if all the carebears are bitching about goons, makes that exact opportunity all the easier.

That's right. Keep shooting the messenger.

I love how the null sec zealots message is "high sec is paranoid, shut up", then when the latest removal of a high sec income source is successful, the message becomes "well, of course it was removed, you deserved to lose it"

Damn straight. 'Cause the messenger isn't bringing us a real message. He's brought us a flaming cowpie disguised as message.

And I, for one, find that irksome.

Hi-Sec POCOs don't represent a loss of ISK. They represent a grand opportunity for those as are clear-eyed enough to see the bonanza that awaits and act appropriately.

Clearly, that won't be you.

This reply was so predicitable it's sad. You see by saying "high sec" is paranoid when I was talking to YOU shows that you have some "issues". You are not high sec lol.

You're simply to biased to accept the truth. No one is trying to hurt you, hell CCP has been helping you types, like when they un-nerfed incursions, "safeties", mining ship buffing etc . It's like in that Features and Ideas thread where you showed a total inability to understand that the interceptor and warp accel chances hit null sec harder than it could ever hit high sec (as, for example, it nerfs carrier and battleship ratting income with slwoer warps AND makes thing decidely more dangerous in null, not of which I'm protesting by the way, because unlike you I understand the game I'm playing).

You would have thought that CCP outright telling you that pocos would have nc taxes still would have calmed your fears of null sec domination. And that's what it is that drives you, fear to go along with that "omg im in high sec I can't do nothing against the cartels but write angry letters on the forums" impotence you got goin on lol.