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[Rubicon] Command Ship Models

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Atreides 47
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#421 - 2013-10-08 01:46:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Atreides 47
Tragedy wrote:
Can we please, PLEASE not have anymore space camo? Im stoked for a sleipnir cane. Space camouflage paintjobs are about the worst looking and most ridiculous thing I've seen in a video game in a long time.


Invictor wrote:
Dev time spent on changes that are not needed.
AGAIN.
A big backlog of stuff that has been broken for years. The only thing that needs changing is your approach to your customers


Exactly, thats critical points. CCP never listened shitstorm about space camo ? Maybe its time to start one Cool

Long Live the Fighters !

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Kaylin Drake
Profound Destiny
#422 - 2013-10-08 01:49:33 UTC
I love the Drake.
Now I love the Drake even more.
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
#423 - 2013-10-08 07:20:52 UTC
I had hoped that this had gone away entirely...

Eos: I've owned an Eos for a long while, I held it for years against its unnerfing and the restoration of its chin-waggler. I haven't yet got round to fitting it out since the Oddessy changes and it looks like I might end up selling it with this change.
I don't like the Myrm model (despite its verticality), it had novelty power but while the Brutix grew on me the Myrm's shine faded over time.

Nighthawk: The brutal looks of the Ferox replaced by the bland... A black paintjob won't remove the blandness.

Abso: But the Laser Chicken!!!

Sleip: And the machinegun Space-train!!!
Janeway84
Insane's Asylum
#424 - 2013-10-08 07:54:07 UTC
Nice with the Cs getting a graphics overhaul, but they really should give them more body work and not just paint job.
But its a good start Smile
Lord Eremet
The Seatbelts
#425 - 2013-10-08 07:58:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Lord Eremet
Ok, here is my take on this:

Abso: doesn't look like a command ship with a harbinger hull, kinda meh

Eos: not sure

Nighthawk: look! another drake, thats ******* hilarious, but not in a good way.

Sleipnir: another bad change, why take away a good looking ship hull?


So no, I don't like it. Ask your art department to make new models, don't swap models around just to make it look like you doing something good, because it's not. Stick this idea where it belong: in the trash bin.
Tinukeda'ya Naskingar
Minmatar Expeditions ltd.
#426 - 2013-10-08 08:54:35 UTC
Seems like the discussion is quite pointless....

Fozzie read the thread and is said he's up to date. But then he says the names are gonna stay and BP's are going to switch.

It's "good" to feel ignored like this. Not even mentioning all the ppl who are against the change. What is the point calling all this "proposed models" when that change is done. When I hear "proposal" I would think there is room for discussion. But obviously that is not case here...

GG CCP...

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." -  Arthur C. Clarke
Zyella Stormborn
Green Seekers
#427 - 2013-10-08 09:31:07 UTC
I beg of you, leave my Damnation alone!! I love the current model, always have. ;(

There is a special Hell for people like that, Right next to child molestors, and people that talk in the theater. ~Firefly
Bzumka
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#428 - 2013-10-08 09:32:50 UTC
please NO! especially not the Sleipnir!!! CryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCry
Vjorn Angannon
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#429 - 2013-10-08 10:13:42 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:


This is something that first got discussed by us in this Features and Ideas thread. Feedback was overwhelmingly positive but obviously there are strong feelings about a lot of this stuff. The Sleipnir in particular creates very strong feelings for me.

*Snip*

I know this is going to generate a lot of strong feelings due to nostalgia and I share many of those feelings. However I truly think these new versions look amazing and that in the long run this is a change that people will look back on as an obvious positive.
Let us know what you think.


Obviously not strong enough!

I *BLEEPING* HATE what you are planning to do to my Sleipnir!!!!!!!

I thought, and still do think, that the rebalancing of the stats were just fine. But changing the model to an over-painted hurricane is unacceptable to me. The Sleipnir, for me, is (or now was) the most amazing ship to fly (or POS/Station spin). Not anymore.

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Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
#430 - 2013-10-08 11:02:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Lephia DeGrande
The former Thread stands over several Months and the reaction was very positiv why the hell are people starting to hate this Change now all of a sudden?

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Rhnra Pahineh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#431 - 2013-10-08 11:14:11 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
I also want to let you guys know that nothing in these changes affects any timeline for getting special models onto these ships. Updating T2 ships with specialized models is a long-term project the Art guys are working on in every expansion, and that will continue. These changes are not being made "instead" of model changes, they are completely seperate and don't take any significant amount of time away from the other ongoing art projects such as the new sisters ships and the revamped marauder models.

If you're saying that those ships will get special models instead of what is coming, I can assume that this is just a stepping stone. If the new models are permanent, then I'm sorry to say that a paint job an hull swap is not really a "new ship model".

In fact, if the "new" models described in this section are permanent, it makes me very sad.
Kane Fenris
NWP
#432 - 2013-10-08 12:05:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Kane Fenris
Lephia DeGrande wrote:
The former Thread stands over several Months and the reaction was very positiv why the hell are people starting to hate this Change now all of a sudden?


cause it never was

[edit] the only feedback that was actually positive was the feedback to the eos change cause they screwed up cause they chose the navy brutix model nearly all people who fly sleip or nighthawk opposed it from the start on.
Senn Denroth
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#433 - 2013-10-08 12:11:48 UTC
Enough with this tweaking of things that are not broken!

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Aesheera
Doomheim
#434 - 2013-10-08 13:02:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Aesheera
My input.

I *love* the Absolution-Harbinger.
I'm so-so about the Eos looking like a Myrm.
The Drake-Nighthawk, erhm.. (I just don't like Drakes and for some reason it feels like it suits the Vulture more).
Finally, and this is a BIG slap in the face for me personally.

Also, why 3 fleet Commands and 1 combat Command redesign? Consistency would make more sense: all fleets or all combats adopting new hulls.

lastly.
The Sleipnir in particular. That look for me is SIGNATURE to the SlippySleip.
It's just pixels, but somehow it is still gutting to see it 'degraded' to a Hurricane model.

Push this through and my pixelheart is broken.

Cry

- I think my passion is misinterpreted as anger sometimes. And I don't think people are ready for the message that I'm delivering, and delivering with a sense of violent love.
Rab See
Stellar Dynamics
#435 - 2013-10-08 13:11:00 UTC
Logged into Sisi.

Forgot name of my Sleippy.

Spent 3 minutes trying out each of my Canes until I got into the right one. Will rename it 'Sad Panda'. Might try using the little 'II' icon should my naming scheme drift in a sadder direction.

Black Cane - blue highlights ... switch Boundless Creation and Core Complexion paint jobs - make me happier.
David Kir
Hotbirds
#436 - 2013-10-08 13:26:50 UTC  |  Edited by: David Kir
Please leave the Sleipnir alone.

To me (and many others, I like to think), the Sleipnir "looks like business".

It isn't pretty, it doesn't make you stare at it in awe, it doesn't have to prove anything.

It's lean and mean and it wants your corpse in its cargo.

Friends are like cows: if you eat them, they die.
CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#437 - 2013-10-08 14:35:10 UTC
Aesheera wrote:

Also, why 3 fleet Commands and 1 combat Command redesign? Consistency would make more sense: all fleets or all combats adopting new hulls.

There are no longer such things as fleet or combat command ships. That distinction was removed when we rebalanced the class.

And just to be clear we're still early on and nothing is set in stone at this point. What I don't want to do however is make kneejerk changes before more people have had a chance to try them out and give the alternate hulls a chance on Sisi.. Take the time to check them out on Sisi and let the idea settle in, keep letting us know what you think. We will continue to be taking feedback for quite a while.

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TrouserDeagle
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#438 - 2013-10-08 14:47:13 UTC
Wouldn't it be cool if both the models were maintained and you could go choose them in the options?

I could switch back to the superior old megathron and scorpion hulls, and if the nighthawk ever becomes usable (lol 5 mids), I wouldn't have to see more drakes flying about.
Aesheera
Doomheim
#439 - 2013-10-08 14:48:35 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Aesheera wrote:

Also, why 3 fleet Commands and 1 combat Command redesign? Consistency would make more sense: all fleets or all combats adopting new hulls.

There are no longer such things as fleet or combat command ships. That distinction was removed when we rebalanced the class.

And just to be clear we're still early on and nothing is set in stone at this point. What I don't want to do however is make kneejerk changes before more people have had a chance to try them out and give the alternate hulls a chance on Sisi.. Take the time to check them out on Sisi and let the idea settle in, keep letting us know what you think. We will continue to be taking feedback for quite a while.

Fair enough, I'll poke around on SiSi - don't read me wrong, new things are good things, even if it's just reskins.

But one of my statements stands: for the sake of my interwebs sanity and appreciation of the hull and ship's function - please leave the Sleipnir alone.
David Kir wrote:
It isn't pretty, it doesn't make you stare at it in awe, it doesn't have to prove anything.

It's lean and mean and it wants your corpse in its cargo.

Dem words be true.

- I think my passion is misinterpreted as anger sometimes. And I don't think people are ready for the message that I'm delivering, and delivering with a sense of violent love.
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#440 - 2013-10-08 14:50:01 UTC
Atreides 47 wrote:
CCP never listened shitstorm about space camo ?



Naysayers...

Space camo is good

<3 space camo

Space camo best camo.

Indifels, naysayers, bad people I hate you. Bear

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