Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Because you're not in the same system when your scout sees the giant gang blocking your path. Scout = at least one jump ahead.

Sure, if you're not using a scout or a giant blob comes through a JB into the system you're in, then it makes no difference. But anyone with a brain uses a scout and typically you have forewarning of a spike into your transit system.

Dropping bubbles behind you, even with the warp speed changes, gives you at least double the time to create separation from a giant blobs pack of interceptors.

this doesn't work anymore for the reason he explained: the server tick.

i do have, among other ships, a stiletto with 3k+ scan res, and back to a year and half ago, i was able to catch intys and pods on gates(low and high) around 50% of the time.

then an update hit, and this doesn't work anymore, a slight delay have been introduced somewhere, with the result being i'm able to lock but the point never apply.

and NO, this is nothing to do with wcs:

1- happen on pods / shuttles
2- happen with hictor + infini point

there is, 100% of the time, a 1 sec delay between the end of the lock and the module activation, so if the tgt warp during this time, you succesfully lock but that's all, even if you preactivated the point.
sometime, it even more weird, point is activated on your screen but not on server or tgt, so he warp, but event is registered and you still take the various consequences of the point, like gate guns / timers etc...

all this just because of the 1Hz server tick, wich is clearly not fast enought when it comes to interceptions of fast ships

it's being reported but as usual, ccp ignore this broken mechanic, now we will have fun, because with the reduced landing time on fast ships like inty, you will see inty / hictors just pop out of nowhere on grid with you, being already bubbled / pointed, du to the very same problem with server tick.

i tested it, was on grid with point on a BS while on the BS screen, i was not even on grid yet and just magically appeared a split second later, with point already established.

another fun behaviour due to this is that if you try decloacking someone, with a ship doing 4k+ m/s or more (like a dram or inty), you will sometime pass throught it without decloacking, because at "t" you are at 2k+ from him, and at "t+1" you are at 2k+ on the opposite side (t being server tick), so server side, you never entered the 2k radius required to decloack him, even if technically, you went throught (same goes for bumping indeed).

test yourself, take a fast ship (4k+ m/s), and just repeatedly go right in a station (full speed indeed).

sometimes, you will be able to enter very deep before being bumped back: that is because the server tick were too slow to register the "impact" of you vs station, and did it next tick, allowing you to go farther inside the collision model

another test can be done too:

take 2 ships and repetedly lock it (be sure nothing change on him like sig radius, and on you like scan res)

now lock / unlock 20-50 times and record the time required for each attempt:

there will be +-2 sec variations, because of the server ticks sometimes being right on time, sometimes not.

needless to say the impact is huge when it comes to catch things that can warp in 1.5-2 sec....

these are just a few, there is probably a lot of other cases where it can be noticed, these are just the one i've found myself and being able to reproduce easily, and have reproduced by others.

also i do have a very good connection, with 16-20 ms ping, so not my connection to blame

Are people really that excited about creating another form of risk free travel in Eve? Is that what this game needs?

You would also effectively cut the pop cap in every system in two as you double the strain on the server.

Rocket claw would definitely need three mids. Not going to happen apparently. If you need a scram/ web inty or a low sig punk frig you'll still be better off flying a slasher or stilletto.

Every race now gets a missile interceptor, except Minmatar. And it's one of our primary weapon systems.

Come on, Missile or Rocket Claw. 2 Mids wouldn't be so bad then. You could still stick a 400mm plate on there if you wished, just blap with rockets, rather than guns.