Player Features and Ideas Discussion

The claw still has the issue that it is a 0 range ship with no range control. It needs either a projection bonus or a 3rd mid for a web to be able to do anything to another frigate.

Edit: I think the claw should swap to a rocket frigate like the breacher, but with the standard minmatar application bonus.

Yeah, if inties were only immune to anchored bubbles, that'd be fine and wouldn't really screw over small gang FC's in any way. I don't believe the "balancing" Devs have the ability to generate original code, however.

Let me spell it out for you slowly, since FW mostly revolves around farming isk pointlessly. And since you're in RvB, which isn't actual PvP but a giant killmail farm, you probably don't understand half of the things that have been argued regarding small gangs and nullified interceptors.

Let's say 30 people are chasing you and six of your friends in low sec. They warped in on you, you warped out to a gate, and now you're running for home. They won't catch you. You're home free. Why? Because none of the ships fast enough to pass you in warp, jump through a gate and tackle you, will survive for two seconds against gate guns. Nullification and warp speed changes don't buff interceptors in low sec against you, it doesn't buff a blob in passing you up and locking your gang down. It doesn't affect you. Which is why you should use your brain more, and your keyboard less.

In null, especially when you're leading a 7 man gang roaming in sov-null, it's a different story. You're not in low sec, you've no stations to hide in. There's no gate guns to swat frigates tackling you. There's more than likely jump bridges that can circumvent your path. You have one weapon for creating separation and getting distance from a 30 man blob. It's your light interdictor bubble. You drop it behind you to slow down your pursuers, you drop it after your gang warps off when you jump a gate. It's the one tool you have as a small gang FC roaming sov-null.

Post-Rubicon, that weapon for creating separation is destroyed, nerfed, killed off. You cannot roam in a balanced gang in null without being overtaken by interceptors in giant home defense blobs, fighting them off, getting aggressed and getting stuck. And rather than be mowed down, you'll do the only smart thing: run interceptor only gangs, not be catchable on gates due to server ticks, while being able to farm hilarious ratter ganks while never being at any real risk of dying.

I suppose I could see how that might be a good thing in an RvB/FW pilots eyes, but for people who enjoy a challenge in EVE, it's a real bad development.

You should check AF's stats again...

AF are a lot slower than all T1 frigates but the logi ones. In fact, AF have attack cruisers speed ; no, in fact, some attack cruisers are even faster than them ! T1 frigates have between 1,5 and 2 times the speed of AF. That's a lot. AF are a lot more comparable to destroyers in fact, and the balance between them is rather fragile.

And interceptors are cheaper than AF ; not by much, but still. In fact, they are the cheapest T2 ship in game, and they currently are on the same level of power than attack frigate. Considering their speed and capabilities, they shouldn't have anything more or they would always be better than attack frigates.

As long as you know how to fly them, you won't have much
worry of loosing them

You should check AF's stats again...

AF are a lot slower than all T1 frigates but the logi ones. In fact, AF have attack cruisers speed ; no, in fact, some attack cruisers are even faster than them ! T1 frigates have between 1,5 and 2 times the speed of AF. That's a lot. AF are a lot more comparable to destroyers in fact, and the balance between them is rather fragile.

And interceptors are cheaper than AF ; not by much, but still. In fact, they are the cheapest T2 ship in game, and they currently are on the same level of power than attack frigate. Considering their speed and capabilities, they shouldn't have anything more or they would always be better than attack frigates.

Remove this stupid bubble immunity, give all the interceptors another slot. Personally as a long time interceptor pilot I think all the tackle specialized ones should have the ability to fit a nosferatu so that they can get up close and scram tackle ships with neuts. They should all have the ability to fit a fair amount of tank without hurting their mobility or general role on the battlefield. The tackle interceptors should all have bonuses and damage application good enough to be able to handle a wave of warriors. The combat interceptors should in my opinion be similar to AFs in dps potential but exchange a substantially lower tank(about half, kinda what they have now) for speed. The role of the combat ceptors has always been anti-tackle.

Buffing combat ceptors like I proposed would give a sense of scalability. As long as you don't make them very tanky we shouldn't get the problem that we had with the dramiel back in 2011 since it was pretty much like an interceptor and an AF built into the same ship.

For those who're serious about rejecting the nullification changes to Interceptors. I suggest you flood this thread with comments rejecting the change.

I'm confident that if CCP sees a 200+ threadnought rejecting changes to Interceptors as is. They (CCP) will react.

So, I suggest you get more players on here to boycott this change. Otherwise it will go thru as is v0v

... Great cyno ship, great at blobbing small gangs roaming their space, invincible scouts. Your average large entity null-sec player likes the game to be easy, and this is the definition of easymode.