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[Rubicon] Sisters of EVE faction ships

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Malcolm Malicious
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#2381 - 2013-10-31 18:55:27 UTC
TrouserDeagle wrote:
Kagura Nikon wrote:
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
TrouserDeagle wrote:
50 bandwidth and double damage bonus pls.


That's a very interesting idea. Two sentries becomes equivalent to four and a flight of mediums deals the same damage as a full flight of heavies.

What are you trying to achieve with an approach like this?



That would be STUPIDLY overpowered against smaller ships.


As opposed to a rapid light cerb, which isn't overpowered at all.


This is a cool idea. Super scout drones.
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#2382 - 2013-10-31 19:01:00 UTC
Are the stupidly overpowered medium/light drones balanced out by having base speed and base HP? I didn't see anything in the suggestion other than "100% bonus to drone damage".
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#2383 - 2013-10-31 19:05:37 UTC
But what about lasers?

I still think the range and cap bonus are not the selling points of the year and a rof or damage bonus would be sexy - along with 4 speedy heavy or 5 bonused Hammerhe- errm medium drones.

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TrouserDeagle
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#2384 - 2013-10-31 19:54:30 UTC
Malcolm Malicious wrote:
TrouserDeagle wrote:
Kagura Nikon wrote:
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
TrouserDeagle wrote:
50 bandwidth and double damage bonus pls.


That's a very interesting idea. Two sentries becomes equivalent to four and a flight of mediums deals the same damage as a full flight of heavies.

What are you trying to achieve with an approach like this?



That would be STUPIDLY overpowered against smaller ships.


As opposed to a rapid light cerb, which isn't overpowered at all.


This is a cool idea. Super scout drones.


Not even that. It's just medium drones for medium ships.
Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
#2385 - 2013-10-31 19:57:23 UTC
CCP lets get these on sisi, come on
PotatoOverdose
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2386 - 2013-10-31 20:21:29 UTC
Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:
CCP lets get these on sisi, come on

At this point, this needs needs to happen. It's been EFT warriorred as much as it's going to be EFT warriored. Now we need to see it in action.
Galphii
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2387 - 2013-10-31 23:28:50 UTC
CCP Rise wrote:
Quote:
I was just thinking that instead of reducing the Stratios' firepower by limiting it's drone bandwidth, you could give it the same bonus as the Astero - 20% bonus to drone hitpoints


Yep we thought of something like this also, but really it's much worse. Like others said above, the hp isn't nearly as useful on the cruiser, and it's a huge damage nerf. 50% instead of 20%.


I'm glad someone did the maths, I was clearly too lazy to Lol

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Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
#2388 - 2013-11-01 01:33:54 UTC
But why, 10% to HP and damage, all drone boats cruiser and up get it, that it doesn't make small and med drones OP. I do wish they would have only gave it 2 slots for guns and gave it 100% to laser damage, and only gave it 4 highs, and another mid or low but oh well. Again just get it on sisi. I don't see the cruiser being OP at all really, and the frigate seems to be even a bit under the curve, but till we see it on sisi we just won't know. And give me the BS version!
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#2389 - 2013-11-01 02:43:26 UTC
There's a Mass Test coming up on the 4th, with the stated intent of testing client/server performance in Rubicon. This would seem to suggest that there's going to be something to test, which would imply (to me at least) that we're going to have a new build by then. The SoE ships should be in it, judging by what we've been told previously by Fozzie.
UGG10
Doomheim
#2390 - 2013-11-01 06:47:00 UTC
These ships has ONLY ONE positive plus = NO NEED A LOT OF SKILLS FOR FLLY WITH COVERT CLOAKS !

All other is COMPLETELY SCRAP!

1. If these vessels is focused for DED spaces and WH, PLESE remove the aggro on the drones in DED and WH spaces, that time i see sense for drones offensive.
2. Without logist theys no have active tank(i mean inpossible for tanking WH or 6/10, for someone and 4/10). These vessels how many i know is focused for solo travelers RollUgh

This time these vessels calculated ONLY for: PIRATES,THIEF's and GANKERS


If CCP & ISP WANT create normal solo explorers ship, need completely change theys:

1. Offensive Arrow Heavy missiles [recomendation long range&DPS 300-500] plus 5x small drones[for some small targets] 25mb/s bandwith [recomendation dronebay 30]
2. TankingArrow ONLY shield tanking

If not thange theys configuration to this, were i writed, these ships will be useless for good exploration.

How many i see all writet comments, I can safely say that this forum is going pouring from an empty bucket-to empty bucket, or is going subservience to CCP and ISP. Or most commentatos is alts of the these ships creators. WHY i say that? I say because most comments is completely nonsense or talking about pirating ganking and same themes not related to the professional exploration or cleaning DED/WH

Maybe my comment to some people, and not like it, but the truth is that it is. Truth is not always pleasant unheard.

I'm in EVE from 2005 = PVP,PVE & maybe 1year manufacturing [nullsec/wh/hisec]
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2391 - 2013-11-01 07:45:28 UTC
UGG10 wrote:
These ships has ONLY ONE positive plus = NO NEED A LOT OF SKILLS FOR FLLY WITH COVERT CLOAKS !

All other is COMPLETELY SCRAP!

1. If these vessels is focused for DED spaces and WH, PLESE remove the aggro on the drones in DED and WH spaces, that time i see sense for drones offensive.
2. Without logist theys no have active tank(i mean inpossible for tanking WH or 6/10, for someone and 4/10). These vessels how many i know is focused for solo travelers RollUgh

This time these vessels calculated ONLY for: PIRATES,THIEF's and GANKERS


If CCP & ISP WANT create normal solo explorers ship, need completely change theys:

1. Offensive Arrow Heavy missiles [recomendation long range&DPS 300-500] plus 5x small drones[for some small targets] 25mb/s bandwith [recomendation dronebay 30]
2. TankingArrow ONLY shield tanking

If not thange theys configuration to this, were i writed, these ships will be useless for good exploration.

How many i see all writet comments, I can safely say that this forum is going pouring from an empty bucket-to empty bucket, or is going subservience to CCP and ISP. Or most commentatos is alts of the these ships creators. WHY i say that? I say because most comments is completely nonsense or talking about pirating ganking and same themes not related to the professional exploration or cleaning DED/WH

Maybe my comment to some people, and not like it, but the truth is that it is. Truth is not always pleasant unheard.

I'm in EVE from 2005 = PVP,PVE & maybe 1year manufacturing [nullsec/wh/hisec]


If you are going to be wrong be wrong loudly.
Elijah Aldent
FireStar Inc
#2392 - 2013-11-01 08:06:33 UTC
UGG10 wrote:
These ships has ONLY ONE positive plus = NO NEED A LOT OF SKILLS FOR FLLY WITH COVERT CLOAKS !

All other is COMPLETELY SCRAP!

1. If these vessels is focused for DED spaces and WH, PLESE remove the aggro on the drones in DED and WH spaces, that time i see sense for drones offensive.
2. Without logist theys no have active tank(i mean inpossible for tanking WH or 6/10, for someone and 4/10). These vessels how many i know is focused for solo travelers RollUgh

This time these vessels calculated ONLY for: PIRATES,THIEF's and GANKERS


If CCP & ISP WANT create normal solo explorers ship, need completely change theys:

1. Offensive Arrow Heavy missiles [recomendation long range&DPS 300-500] plus 5x small drones[for some small targets] 25mb/s bandwith [recomendation dronebay 30]
2. TankingArrow ONLY shield tanking

If not thange theys configuration to this, were i writed, these ships will be useless for good exploration.

How many i see all writet comments, I can safely say that this forum is going pouring from an empty bucket-to empty bucket, or is going subservience to CCP and ISP. Or most commentatos is alts of the these ships creators. WHY i say that? I say because most comments is completely nonsense or talking about pirating ganking and same themes not related to the professional exploration or cleaning DED/WH

Maybe my comment to some people, and not like it, but the truth is that it is. Truth is not always pleasant unheard.

I'm in EVE from 2005 = PVP,PVE & maybe 1year manufacturing [nullsec/wh/hisec]


Shocked Holy...
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2393 - 2013-11-01 09:00:32 UTC
UGG10 wrote:
These ships has ONLY ONE positive plus = NO NEED A LOT OF SKILLS FOR FLLY WITH COVERT CLOAKS !

All other is COMPLETELY SCRAP!

1. If these vessels is focused for DED spaces and WH, PLESE remove the aggro on the drones in DED and WH spaces, that time i see sense for drones offensive.
2. Without logist theys no have active tank(i mean inpossible for tanking WH or 6/10, for someone and 4/10). These vessels how many i know is focused for solo travelers RollUgh

This time these vessels calculated ONLY for: PIRATES,THIEF's and GANKERS


If CCP & ISP WANT create normal solo explorers ship, need completely change theys:

1. Offensive Arrow Heavy missiles [recomendation long range&DPS 300-500] plus 5x small drones[for some small targets] 25mb/s bandwith [recomendation dronebay 30]
2. TankingArrow ONLY shield tanking

If not thange theys configuration to this, were i writed, these ships will be useless for good exploration.

How many i see all writet comments, I can safely say that this forum is going pouring from an empty bucket-to empty bucket, or is going subservience to CCP and ISP. Or most commentatos is alts of the these ships creators. WHY i say that? I say because most comments is completely nonsense or talking about pirating ganking and same themes not related to the professional exploration or cleaning DED/WH

Maybe my comment to some people, and not like it, but the truth is that it is. Truth is not always pleasant unheard.

I'm in EVE from 2005 = PVP,PVE & maybe 1year manufacturing [nullsec/wh/hisec]


So do not fly it!

I, on my 120M SP love them and will use them a lot, and obviously not for the less SP needed thing...

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"

epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#2394 - 2013-11-01 09:06:34 UTC  |  Edited by: epicurus ataraxia
Elijah Aldent wrote:
UGG10 wrote:
These ships has ONLY ONE positive plus = NO NEED A LOT OF SKILLS FOR FLLY WITH COVERT CLOAKS !

All other is COMPLETELY SCRAP!

1. If these vessels is focused for DED spaces and WH, PLESE remove the aggro on the drones in DED and WH spaces, that time i see sense for drones offensive.
2. Without logist theys no have active tank(i mean inpossible for tanking WH or 6/10, for someone and 4/10). These vessels how many i know is focused for solo travelers RollUgh

This time these vessels calculated ONLY for: PIRATES,THIEF's and GANKERS


If CCP & ISP WANT create normal solo explorers ship, need completely change theys:

1. Offensive Arrow Heavy missiles [recomendation long range&DPS 300-500] plus 5x small drones[for some small targets] 25mb/s bandwith [recomendation dronebay 30]
2. TankingArrow ONLY shield tanking

If not thange theys configuration to this, were i writed, these ships will be useless for good exploration.

How many i see all writet comments, I can safely say that this forum is going pouring from an empty bucket-to empty bucket, or is going subservience to CCP and ISP. Or most commentatos is alts of the these ships creators. WHY i say that? I say because most comments is completely nonsense or talking about pirating ganking and same themes not related to the professional exploration or cleaning DED/WH

Maybe my comment to some people, and not like it, but the truth is that it is. Truth is not always pleasant unheard.

I'm in EVE from 2005 = PVP,PVE & maybe 1year manufacturing [nullsec/wh/hisec]


Shocked Holy...


He has sort of one good point,I would like to see drone aggro dialed back from 11.
The rest of the post...........?

Hopefully google translate murdered the original meaning.Otherwise it seems he's talking about a different eve than the one we know.

There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE

Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2395 - 2013-11-01 09:34:45 UTC
UGG10 wrote:
These ships has ONLY ONE positive plus = NO NEED A LOT OF SKILLS FOR FLLY WITH COVERT CLOAKS !

All other is COMPLETELY SCRAP!

1. If these vessels is focused for DED spaces and WH, PLESE remove the aggro on the drones in DED and WH spaces, that time i see sense for drones offensive.
2. Without logist theys no have active tank(i mean inpossible for tanking WH or 6/10, for someone and 4/10). These vessels how many i know is focused for solo travelers RollUgh

This time these vessels calculated ONLY for: PIRATES,THIEF's and GANKERS


If CCP & ISP WANT create normal solo explorers ship, need completely change theys:

1. Offensive Arrow Heavy missiles [recomendation long range&DPS 300-500] plus 5x small drones[for some small targets] 25mb/s bandwith [recomendation dronebay 30]
2. TankingArrow ONLY shield tanking

If not thange theys configuration to this, were i writed, these ships will be useless for good exploration.

How many i see all writet comments, I can safely say that this forum is going pouring from an empty bucket-to empty bucket, or is going subservience to CCP and ISP. Or most commentatos is alts of the these ships creators. WHY i say that? I say because most comments is completely nonsense or talking about pirating ganking and same themes not related to the professional exploration or cleaning DED/WH

Maybe my comment to some people, and not like it, but the truth is that it is. Truth is not always pleasant unheard.

I'm in EVE from 2005 = PVP,PVE & maybe 1year manufacturing [nullsec/wh/hisec]



then post with a main, because I do not believe someone that is as old as I am in this game can be so clueless.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"

UGG10
Doomheim
#2396 - 2013-11-01 15:12:06 UTC  |  Edited by: UGG10
Kagura Nikon wrote:
UGG10 wrote:
These ships has ONLY ONE positive plus = NO NEED A LOT OF SKILLS FOR FLLY WITH COVERT CLOAKS !

All other is COMPLETELY SCRAP!

1. If these vessels is focused for DED spaces and WH, PLESE remove the aggro on the drones in DED and WH spaces, that time i see sense for drones offensive.
2. Without logist theys no have active tank(i mean inpossible for tanking WH or 6/10, for someone and 4/10). These vessels how many i know is focused for solo travelers RollUgh

This time these vessels calculated ONLY for: PIRATES,THIEF's and GANKERS


If CCP & ISP WANT create normal solo explorers ship, need completely change theys:

1. Offensive Arrow Heavy missiles [recomendation long range&DPS 300-500] plus 5x small drones[for some small targets] 25mb/s bandwith [recomendation dronebay 30]
2. TankingArrow ONLY shield tanking

If not thange theys configuration to this, were i writed, these ships will be useless for good exploration.

How many i see all writet comments, I can safely say that this forum is going pouring from an empty bucket-to empty bucket, or is going subservience to CCP and ISP. Or most commentatos is alts of the these ships creators. WHY i say that? I say because most comments is completely nonsense or talking about pirating ganking and same themes not related to the professional exploration or cleaning DED/WH

Maybe my comment to some people, and not like it, but the truth is that it is. Truth is not always pleasant unheard.

I'm in EVE from 2005 = PVP,PVE & maybe 1year manufacturing [nullsec/wh/hisec]


So do not fly it!

I, on my 120M SP love them and will use them a lot, and obviously not for the less SP needed thing...




Smile you say "not fly" , these my writed minds is not my alone , a lot of my friends only say "scrap" and forget about rubicon pach, only i one writed the comment, good luck and enjoy with new one "gift" ......
Darian en Chasteaux
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2397 - 2013-11-01 16:51:57 UTC
Hi,

Only seeing 2 Amarr ships here - Why Drone Bonuses on Amarr - Drones are for Galente...

Darian
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2398 - 2013-11-01 17:02:48 UTC
Darian en Chasteaux wrote:
Hi,

Only seeing 2 Amarr ships here - Why Drone Bonuses on Amarr - Drones are for Galente...

Darian



Check your prohpecy, arbitrator, Curse, Pilgrim and armageddon....


then do not even bother posting back here.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"

Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#2399 - 2013-11-01 18:31:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Alvatore DiMarco
It's Nov. 1st. T-minus 18 days until Rubicon. Still no SoE ships for testing. It takes at least a week for the herd of cats I'll refer to as the SiSi Testing Community to properly put things through their paces and come up with data.

I don't want to sound like I'm whining or impatient, it's just that we're getting a bit close to the edge here.

EDIT: I started up my SiSi launcher and.. there's a patch! Perhaps it's a new build.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#2400 - 2013-11-01 18:34:22 UTC
Darian en Chasteaux wrote:
Hi,

Only seeing 2 Amarr ships here - Why Drone Bonuses on Amarr - Drones are for Galente...

Darian


It was supposed to be a secret that pirate faction ships use two factions to combine the strength of the two into a pirate boat.

The SOE are no different and use Amarr and Gallente for them.

Guristas uses Caldari and Gallente
Serpentis uses Gallente and Matari
Sanshas uses Amarr and Caldari
Blood Raider uses Matari and Amarr

And please don't tell anyone about this.

Eve Minions is recruiting.

This is the law of ship progression!

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