Player Features and Ideas Discussion

If laser-drone boat is what you want, mainly for exploration I presume, then those 3 turrets should get 100% damage and range bonus. Along with 40-50% nerf to current drone bonuses it would be far less appealing as a stealth ganker, but not to overdo it we need that original 125mbps and 500m3 drone bay back. Having said that, IMO for exploration purposes larger capacitor and cargohold would be handy as well.

Clearly leaving a ship with 1100 power grid and no turrets is a wise idea, oh wait....
If it lost it turrets it would not need that much power grid.

Giving up is not in the spirit of eve, you fight till the last breath. Then catch your breath and continue to fight.

I was initially opposed to removing any mids, however on further consideration it's reasonable. If you're going into a combat plex you'd want to take out the analyzers+cargo scanner in favor of more-useful modules, so perhaps 5/4/6 is a very good idea after all.

It also limits the tank for ganky PvP lolfits, making the matter even more hilarious.

..Ohgod. Hull tanking.

Regardless, I do wish this matter hadn't been met with such extended silence from CCP only to end up with "this is how they're going to be at launch" without even having gotten onto the test server yet. There's so much data collection yet to be done and there are so many potential ways to adjust both ships.

Some actual testing (beyond internal) would have been delightful, but it's not long until Rubicon now from a development standpoint and nobody (even CCP, I suspect) knows exactly when the next SiSi build (which is supposed to have the SoE ships) will be deployed.

No bonuses to sentries (forget heavies for DED sites) ? More DPS for lasers simply turns it into a pvp ship, with no probe launcher you get 4 guns but with DPS bonus for guns it becomes terribly OP.

For exploration; yes, larger cargo hold (650m would be close to ideal) 500m drone bay (450m would suffice), 125m drone bandwidth reduce drone bonus from 10% to 7.5%.
As both Scorch and Conflag have reduced tracking bonuses, 50% to range as role bonus and 7.5% to tracking per level as Amarr bonus. Tracking bonus is negated if fit with 4 turrets (pvp fit) so it doesn't become OP for pvp but gets an added bonus using drones as primary weapon.
Realistically, if you were using this ship to solo low level DED sites in deep nul, would you not like to have a tractor beam and salvager fitted? This then leaves only 1 high slot available for a gun, which would probably be better utilised fitting a drone link?

Biggest issue I see with this ship is CPU, 500 CPU is a little on the low side for fitting and even with +4 implant and Co-processor it is not the best.

You also no longer need to fit both analyzers onto the ship, since you can carry a refitting depot (Probably) in order to swap out one for another as needed. So 4 mid slots is sufficient for exploration in that regard.

If your happy to sit at scorch range in a ship with around 30k EHP vs DED npcs, more power to you. As the gun dps is the lesser of your options (due to lack of range etc) I was looking at alternate styles to fit it.
I had thought about the deployable thing but can't find any information about it, no blog, not on sisi, so discounted it as an option for now. If someone has a link to info on it I would appreciate them linking it ..

50m3 volume, 3,000m3 capacity, 45-second activation time after launching. Can be scanned down, can be attacked without penalty in highsec, has a reinforcement timer if its HP is depleted that allows you to scoop it up but does not allow putting stuff in it/using the fitting service, does not attract rat aggro, cannot be accessed by other players.

I see all this info about stats, I would like to know how I will be able to get ahold of the ships after the 19th. Will they only be available in null, or will they be available at the empire SOE locations?? Also will their prices be comparable to present faction ship prices from non FW lp stores??