Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I agree with you OP, i would love to see a true rich and exciting WiS, with some missions, some social interaction, some exploration, crafting materials, etc...
I would enjoy to play it with my pilot character, and after all, it's what CCP promised. But they have blatantly lied to us, leading to two catastrophs in one :
1) They have released the most shamefully useless expansion of all the history of the video games (Incarna), leading to the biggest riot ever seen in the history of the video games (for now, because i bet the next one will also concern EVE... dunno why, just a feeling ).
2) Doing that, they have killed the project WiS, or maybe we will get some crumbs again in a few years.

1) Yes. The chat function still works while you are walking in stations. As well as market, scamming, declaring war, joining a corporation, and other methods of interacting with other people.
2) Yes. Double-click in space in the direction you want to go.

Heh, you do not have to convince me :) Im playing this game aint I? Im talking about a great number of potential newcomers. Yes, we have a slowly growing playerbase and thats cool I suppose. For Eve, this might be enough. Is it enough for all other projects CCP has planned? Is it enough to support Dust (which apparently isnt going anywhere), Valkyrie, WoD and an evergrowing New Eden? When I look at the change-logs for Odyssey and the planned ones for Rubicon, I fear that answer is no.

Odyssey made some old players coming back to see the changes, Rubicon will do that too. But what about truly new players, our future legacy? They dont care about exploration changes or High-sec POCOs, because they wont know about any of those things unless they have actually played Eve for a while. So how can we get them to that point?

WiS might be cosmetic, and yeeeah we all know its about "spaceships", old argument there. But a game isnt simply about spaceships, its about immersion. The more players can identify with the game world, the more they feel at home there, and the more likely they are to stay. Yes, it is that simple. Of course, you can all downplay this argument, maybe because you do not want to get your hopes up, maybe because you want to stay elitist, but unless some major change in immersion happens, Eve will continue to alienate the great majority of potential fresh meat.

Whilst having walk in station might be good eye candy, they need to have an effect on game play otherwise what is the point?

Having them for the sake of having them is just a waste of manpower which is better spent on other things

z-axis mang. profit cubed.

Eve Online is not a spaceship game even though we get to spin them in our hangers and fly, er, I mean, click our way through space.

It's an economic simulator.

It's a very well done economic simulator, don't get me wrong. But let's not lose sight over what this game actually is.

If people complain about the lack of direction then WIS is not going to solve that problem, in fact nothing really is.

That is just a typical theme park MMO player who wants their hand holding and quests telling them to kill x things.

As for "The game is alive, but the players cant live in it." how will that be solved by just WIS?

Hence I go back to my last comment that unless you have something in WIS that can effect the game then there is no point ot hem.

“Feelings” do not count as evidence I’m afraid. As to your 50 mates who tried the game… I’ve shown eve to about 10 people, 6 of them are still playing 2 years later.
I don’t think people not being interested in EvE has ANYTHING to do with WiS or space controls. Its simply, as Prince Kobol said, most gamers want their hands held, they want easy games like WoW and CoD that give instant gratification.
That is not EvE, anyone with that mindset will never enjoy this game. This is a game for those of us who enjoy challenge, who like adversity and who thrive and fighting to succeed.

6 out of 10, thats awesome!

But you are still getting my point wrong. I love this game, I dont want to change it, just add to it. May they be players who need hand holding or players who are looking for challenge, when you first try a game you dont know what it has to offer. What counts then is first impression. That first impression is where Eve loses most of its potential new members.

Why do we have Captain Quarters? They dont add anything to the game, they eat up the graphic card like nothing else in the game, and they do not even provide additional interaction. And yet, beginning this game as a newb and seeing your character sitting on this comfortable couch watching Space-News just adds so much to the immersion than simply waking up in a cold station window with Aura trying to text-kill you, as it was before. Looking at the incredible rise in new players since this feature has been added, I cannot help but feel this has a valid contribution. WiS is the next logical step.

Not to be rude, but I seriously call BS on this. You're either making this up or you're the creepiest person ever who hangs out at a public computer playing EVE, grabbing the attention of anyone who will listen to show off your favorite !! video !! game !! And of course everyone makes excuses and gets the hell away as fast as possible.