Ships & Modules

Original post fail so I'll let the thread title speak for itself since ppl have run off with it anyways

NOT EVEN CLOSE

Didn't address:

Ability to get into blaster range.
The minimal DPS advantage over Pulse and ACs if you can get to range.
The non-viability of long-range sniping.
The problem of Tachyons on optimal-bonused hulls even if ranged sniping was viable.

There is still no reason to fly a blasterboat or a railboat - their specialist jobs are still done about as well by other, much more flexible ships. Absurdly, the greatest beneficiary will be ACs thanks to the insane boost to Hail.

The problem is that hybrids have well-defined roles, while lasers and ACs are too flexible, too good in too many situations. Now, you can boost hybrids by making them more flexible too, but you just end up with homogenised weapons, and everybody knows that this is bad. But the only alternative is to nerf lasers and ACs, to stop them encroaching on and usurping hybrids' roles. But CCP simply doesn't dare to do this, it's too vulnerable after the summer's screwups, it can't afford another threadnought from the short-sighted "wahh wahh no nerfs" crowd.

All we can really hope for is to watch this "fix" fail then come back in six months, when CCP is stronger.

we still have to see how much fitting cost is reduced but just this change do alot, we finally might be able to do a 2rep 2cap booster setup on the hyperion w/o electron blaster, no more cpu problem on the mega the thorax could become a beast sporting a decent tank and awesome dps, this will benefit the deimos too even if it will still have other problems like people that are too afraid of KB stats to go short range with a HAC.
the gallente frigs will be the FOTM (especially with the incoming AF boost).
tracking bonus its also a nice ad we will be able to use void with 90% of the tracking of actual antimatters and the mega will have a absurd tracking for a BS.
the increased speed for blaster boat its a major change, very risky for minmatar, imho a agility boost was a better thing for blaster boats where you have to manouver in short ranges.
cap reduction is a minor change and wont effect the game that much (it just help small ships when you dont have a space for a cap booster) but its still a boost

proposed changes are just halfway there. they still only have marginally better dps for much less range atm.

of course they should cut range of blasters even further.

they should do face-melting dps inside a 10-15km bracket, but beyond that, they should have a hard time scratching paint out of an old barn.

damage projection of blasters should be done by the ships themselves and not the guns. that's the counter-balance point of having a gun that can wtfpwn anything inside its optimal.

in perfect conditions, they still have only marginally better damage.

and said perfect conditions are still a less mobile target sitting at spit range.

I honestly believe the changes go far enough and do fix the big issues. I know a lot of people were hoping for some massive power creep and to see Gallente above those Matari and Amarrian folks but I believe in the long run this reserved approach is for the best.

First and foremost, the fitting and cap requirements being lowered. This was well overdue and in some cases beyond a joke, running the numbers and testing some fits the boost we are getting is far more than is on paper.

PvE: We are going to have 1/2 free slots in mids and rigs Take a 425mm Mega, I've gained a Med slot that was originally a cap re-charger, and a rig slot. That's huge! I've never been one of those cap stable people, I have to add. That mid is an extra Tracking Comp, a huge tracking boost over what was previously feasible and the rig? With the PG reduction I'll be slipping a hybrid rig in there.

PvP: Generally if you like dual rep with blasters you were limited to Electrons or an Electron/Ion mix. Not any more, once again the reductions have added more than what was on paper, by allowing us to fit bigger blasters to existing set ups, and well, the -30% cap reduction is just plain nice in this case.

Then we come to the Rail damage bonus, nothing heavy but it's enough to bring them in line, the damage itself was never terrible, but had issues this is a much needed and welcome buff. It might see them used more in PvP, I've got some experimental fits in mind that might be pretty decent.

Blaster tracking, what can I say, after the web nerf, they needed this though they weren't overly bad or broken, and were always situational. But the extra speed, agility boost and tracking fixes it nicely, more range and more damage, are certainly not needed, if you get caught out by one, faces melt.

Personally I'm rather looking forward to using a Deimos, without being laughed at.

in all honesty, they really should get much more damage, but only if they get less range.

their damage quality is improved, but as I said above, atm in perfect conditions they still do just a tiny bit more damage.

I am not Just polity disagreeing with your argument.




We are on the same page here. Especially regarding projectiles and scorch. I'll be a bit pretentious and quote my suggested solutions from the 'Are hybrids inherently broken?' thread in GD:






A hybrid-fix that deserves the name?

Cala