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Some people just have such a sad existence

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Maliandra
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-10-01 10:09:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Maliandra
I completely stand by my opinions on this matter. After viewing the TOS and EULA however, I am now unsure as to whether a post of this nature violates any of the terms agreed upon. As such I have removed the content until which time I can received an official response to a petition placed.

However, enjoy the discussion!
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-10-01 10:11:39 UTC
Shame on him for practicing PvP in a PvP game. Are you going to complain about someone shooting you in CoD next?
Mra Rednu
Vanishing Point.
#3 - 2013-10-01 10:16:29 UTC

Pvp of this type shouldn't really need any practice....
The Greenmachine Greenmachine
Green's Bicycle Shop
#4 - 2013-10-01 10:19:03 UTC
The solution is clearly to make this game rated M so underage players can't play just like in CoD right?


wait.......
Lipbite
Express Hauler
#5 - 2013-10-01 10:20:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Lipbite
Highsec in-corp shooting is CCP's method to control "balance" in the game: it allow to destroy high-sec corps to prevent them growing infinitely and smash low/null alliances using resources accumulated during months / years of easy-mode farming.

No wonder "hardcore PvP" nullbears promote this activity to save themselves from massive non-consensual PvP - it's economically viable, not because they have unusual mental conditions.
Kialopreyst
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-10-01 10:23:12 UTC
Maliandra wrote:
May I make a suggestion to those who fit the same personality profile as this guy? Consider why you do these things while other people your age act normally. Then consider getting the help for it.


You seem to be under the impression that people of a certain playstyle have serious real life mental conditions. The mistake you're making is failing to differentiate between real life and fantasy, which happens to be a serious mental condition that you should seek help for, if not for yourself, then for the safety of the people around you.
Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2013-10-01 10:37:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Silvetica Dian
Maliandra wrote:
http://themittani.com/features/practical-guide-highsec-awoxing

You know I really feel bad after reading this article. Here we are dealing with a person who fully admits he bases hours upon hours of his activities for the sole purpose of angering people in an online video game.

My first thought is, "what a complete dickhead" but when you read the article you realize it's not quite just that. This Tubrug1 is actually almost proud of what he does. The way he articulates his thoughts, it's like he doesn't realize there's anything wrong with behaving like a snotty, obnoxious 14 year old as an aging adult. You have to wonder how that can be. How can someone have so little self respect and empathy that they allow themselves to act in such a distasteful manner?

That is why I feel bad. It makes me wonder what happened to people like this to make them that way. How much trauma must these sorts of people have gone through to end up like this?

Note I haven't been pestered by this guy or any griefers before really, so this is not personal. It's simply sensible.

May I make a suggestion to those who fit the same personality profile as this guy? Consider why you do these things while other people your age act normally. Then consider getting the help for it.

This isn't meant to be offensive, but it is an analysis that applies to a large enough segment of the EVE community.

EDIT: I am NOT referring to AWOXing here. I think that's a brilliant part of the game. I am referring to doing things - AWOXing and others - for the purpose of enjoying the anger and frustration of other gamers.



If you read the pastebin chats after a standard awoxing , corp theft of suicide gank or even read James 315's excellent blog you will quickly come to the opposite conclusion as to which party has unhealthy mental problems. The anger , frothing and detailed gruesome IRL threats from the "victims" is very disturbing. I suspect the perps are as fascinated as people like me that merely read about their exploits as to how weirdly so much of humanity reacts to losses in a computer game. It reminds me of why we couldn't play monopoly when i was a kid because my sister threw the game accross the room if she thought she was losing. She grew out of it by the time she was 9 or so but these people seemingly haven't.
I would be happy to have an EVE awoxer as a RL friend but the people that overeact on an epic scale i would want to steer well clear of.

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March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-10-01 10:47:16 UTC
Kialopreyst wrote:
Maliandra wrote:
May I make a suggestion to those who fit the same personality profile as this guy? Consider why you do these things while other people your age act normally. Then consider getting the help for it.


You seem to be under the impression that people of a certain playstyle have serious real life mental conditions. The mistake you're making is failing to differentiate between real life and fantasy, which happens to be a serious mental condition that you should seek help for, if not for yourself, then for the safety of the people around you.

Many times i've heard that serial killers usually are kind and very nice people.

Looks like your "you can't differentiate between real life and fantasy" is little more complicated thing that you think.

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Kalishka Askulf
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-10-01 10:48:54 UTC
Maliandra wrote:
http://themittani.com/features/practical-guide-highsec-awoxing

You know I really feel bad after reading this article. Here we are dealing with a person who fully admits he bases hours upon hours of his activities for the sole purpose of angering people in an online video game.

My first thought is, "what a complete dickhead" but when you read the article you realize it's not quite just that. This Tubrug1 is actually almost proud of what he does. The way he articulates his thoughts, it's like he doesn't realize there's anything wrong with behaving like a snotty, obnoxious 14 year old as an aging adult. You have to wonder how that can be. How can someone have so little self respect and empathy that they allow themselves to act in such a distasteful manner?

That is why I feel bad. It makes me wonder what happened to people like this to make them that way. How much trauma must these sorts of people have gone through to end up like this?

Note I haven't been pestered by this guy or any griefers before really, so this is not personal. It's simply sensible.

May I make a suggestion to those who fit the same personality profile as this guy? Consider why you do these things while other people your age act normally. Then consider getting the help for it.

This isn't meant to be offensive, but it is an analysis that applies to a large enough segment of the EVE community.

EDIT: I am NOT referring to AWOXing here. I think that's a brilliant part of the game. I am referring to doing things - AWOXing and others - for the purpose of enjoying the anger and frustration of other gamers.



Trying to convince the community someone has a mental disorder and making cruel judgements on someones personal life is far worse than any of the examples in that article.

OP, you should be ashamed of yourself for saying those nasty things Sad

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Lugalbandak
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-10-01 10:49:54 UTC
Mra Rednu wrote:

Pvp of this type shouldn't really need any practice....


golden , yet he writes a whole guide for it lol

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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#11 - 2013-10-01 11:00:00 UTC
Thought they had fixed this "I'm in space you cannot kick me nanananantrollololol"?

Tip: dun get mad if they do.
Mhax Arthie
Doomheim
#12 - 2013-10-01 11:05:24 UTC
Sandbox. Same as in real life, you have military whom fight for honor, mercenary whom fight for money, thugs whom just **** and steal from kids and old ladies. Nothing wrong in it, everybody choose the path that suits them better.
Mayhaw Morgan
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-10-01 12:18:28 UTC
Mhax Arthie wrote:
Fighting for liberty and justice for all = purse snatching


You need help.

People get mad about awoxing because IT IS WRONG! To declare people are mentally unstable for getting angry when someone WRONGS them is a pretty clear sign that you yourself are just a rotten person. Experiencing anger in the face of betrayal is a reasonable and perfectly valid emotional response. If it wasn't, then you wouldn't awox them, because the response would be unreasonable, unexpected, and uncommon. Only a sociopath would claim otherwise . . . probably due to some inborn but unconscious and unacknowledged sense of shame. Quit lying.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#14 - 2013-10-01 12:18:51 UTC
Maliandra wrote:

EDIT: I am NOT referring to AWOXing here. I think that's a brilliant part of the game. I am referring to doing things - AWOXing and others - for the purpose of enjoying the anger and frustration of other gamers.

Best way to prevent people collecting your tears in an internet spaceships game? Don't fekkin' cry when your stuff explodes or finds its way into someone else's possession.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#15 - 2013-10-01 12:27:00 UTC
Heh, that article has some good advice, too.

So, you say that awoxing is a brilliant part of the game, then insinuate that people who it for fun need to be examined for a mental illness? What other reason would you do it for, if not for the buckets of tears when you end up taking out someone's Orca?

I mean, you could do it to hold them ransom, for money, or for a corp medal. But I guess it comes down to which one you view as the icing on the cake. Because you're going to get tears, lots of them. Might as well enjoy it.

For me, money or medals or notoriety is just a bonus, because what I aim to do is wreck someone's day, to remind that highsec isn't all about safety, and to strike at people who annoy me.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#16 - 2013-10-01 12:31:06 UTC
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Only a sociopath would claim otherwise . . . probably due to some inborn but unconscious and unacknowledged sense of shame.


That's a fairly ignorant statement. A sociopath, by definition, feels no shame at their actions.

Awoxing is not wrong, and people who get awox'ed have no one else to blame but themselves, and that's why they are such loud crybabies about it so often. It's easier to externalize anger than it is to turn introspective thought towards oneself.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#17 - 2013-10-01 12:31:53 UTC
OPs tears are delicious
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#18 - 2013-10-01 12:41:09 UTC
He gives advice how to avoid AVOXers. Good article.

Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
Mayhaw Morgan
State War Academy
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-10-01 12:44:01 UTC
Kaarous Aldurad wrote:
A sociopath, by definition, feels no shame at their actions.


Did you read the part where I mentioned it was unconscious and unacknowledged shame? I think you may have missed that part. You should read it again, and look out for that part this time. It's relevant.

Kaarous Aldurad wrote:
Awoxing is not wrong


So, if I awoxed your mother, you'd have no problem with that?

Kaarous Aldurad wrote:
people who get awox'ed have no one else to blame but themselves


^ this is especially true if they awoxed their self, or in the case that "themself" is a different person, one who awoxed them, and by "especially" I really mean "only".

Kaarous Aldurad wrote:
It's easier to externalize anger than it is to turn introspective thought towards oneself.


I agree, and I'd even go further and say that that doesn't just apply to anger. I think it applies to other emotions as well . . . like shame.
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#20 - 2013-10-01 12:44:46 UTC
Another internet psychologist.

I am surprised CCP have not opened up their own practice, so all the experts we have on personality types and disorders can get paid for their valuable insights and treatments.

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