Ships & Modules

So, T2 is pretty much the gold standard, if a character can't fit a T2 battlecruiser for level 3s he is going to be for a real ride like two days later when he attempts a level 4 and gets blapped.



If someone isn't bright enough to play with the fit, there is little we are going to be able to do with it, and the odds of me entering APIs for every noob that asks about a fit are slim. I can't see your skills you get a T2 fit assuming perfect fitting skills. Feel free to ignore it at will, its not my isk.




No T2 level 5 is the standard that most ships are judged by, there is no law saying each skill must be V'd up...indeed they aren't but comparing the stats of a ship at level 5 skills is how you judge the SHIPS THEMSELVES against each other. I don't care about your characters skills, they mean very little to me. Its not laziness its just the standard

You can fleet free to rebuild the fit with meta level gear that is fine, it may or may not work....however that is really neither here nor there.

sigh .. another super-priced fit


it's going to take me months to make enough isk for that veldspar

Except it does. Are you CPU tight? Fine, replace one of those rigs with a Processor Overclock, and meta a few things. Are you PG tight? Replace a rig with an ACR and meta a few things. Does it already have fitting mods and you don't want to put more on? Well I'm sorry, but the fit just isn't for you.

Try looking at a few other fits, or asking for help while also saying that you have extremely low fitting skills. Like... really bad fitting skills. I mean, you'd have to not have trained them at all.

But take care to really emphasize how bad your fitting skills are if you're going to ask for help, because if you can't be bothered to explain that you have poor skills, and particularly emphasize the poor fitting skills, we can't be bothered to come up with something that isn't all level V's.

It's a common misunderstanding between vets and new players :
A new player asks for a fit. A vet gives a fit with all skills at V and T2 modules because it's a standard way to compare fits and it's a reasonable goal to achieve.
Then the new player looks at the required skills and unsubscribes, because he thinks that he will have to wait 2 months before to start to do whatever he was asking the fit for.

But no, not at all, you can start immediatly with some meta modules, and you will train what skills can't do for you : practise, tactical sens, agro, managing overview, etc...
You can very well run lvl 3 missions with a battlecruiser fitted without any T2 module. I won't be as easy, but it's perfectly doable. What's important is what you will learn while doing it, instead of waiting until you are able to undock your first full V skill/full T2 modules ship while you have spent two month doing nothing else than watching your skill queue and moaning

A T1 BC is not that painful to lose if you have insured it correctly (platinium).
Now go lose it, go test, go try, go experiment, go play !
I guess you'll do very fine in no time if you kick yourself to try and analyze.

The problem within your OP is simply that most people, when requesting advice, don't specify their basic skill levels.

Most of us who offer ship/fitting advice utilize all V in EFT, and then attempt to leave some spare CPU/Powergrid in order to allow a lower SP player to use Meta/T1 items and have less than perfect fitting skills.

That said, if you're flying a BC in Level 3 missions, you should probably have all of your fitting skills to at least IV, which will allow you access to a great deal of the T2 modules included in most fits.

If you ask for an inexpensive fit that can be done without any AWU, fitting skills @ III, with Weapon Upgrades II, most people can work with that level of information to provide you something that you can use.

Most posters simply don't give that much detail before asking, "What ship should I use against X-rats?"