EVE General Discussion

Assuming you magically cut off all connection between Empire and Null (since Null and Highsec would leave the question of Lowsec, I chose to group HS and LS together as Empire space):

Empire would lose all tech2 stuff, since you need Nullsec material for them. Supply of material would be reduced (no more stuff being brought in from Null to be sold at Jita), but so would demand (no more Nullsec people buying supllies to jump freighter to null). Empire would survive, but you wouldn't see anybody flying tech 2 stuff anymore, and the economy would be much worse off.

Nullsec doesn't in theory lose anything, as they have all the same resources as Empire, plus tech2 materials. However, in practice Null is a lot more reliant on Empire than might appear. For starters, nobody does large scale industry in null. There are far less stations, and BP research slots in particular are in short supply. POSs can be used to replace stations, but are far more inefficient.
Nullsec could still produce any ship in game (except Empire faction ships, the BPCs of which are only availeable in Empire), but due to limited amount of stations and less players than in Empire (not to mention many, if not most, of those players disdain the very idea of mining and industry) the supply would be smaller. This would have a lot bigger effect than people might think. Producing a large fleet worth of ships takes a very long time. As long as there is HS access this won't be a problem as the large amounts of ships being produced in HS means there is a constant supply. Cut that supply off and suddenly you can't lose a couple of hundred battleships on a weekly basis, at least not until you've built a sufficiently big industrial base to churn out a couple of hundred battleships every week.
This might actually increase Supercapital-based warfare as Supers, while time-consuming to build, are also extremely difficult to destroy so you don't need to worry about replacing them that often. I'm not very well-informed on the specific of supercapital warfare, tho, so I might be wrong on that.
Also since certain materials are unevenly distributed around Nullsec, with no Jita-like trade hub, getting those materials would be a lot harder. Smaller coalitions would be unable to produce many materials themselves, and would eighter have to trade with others or get by with things they can domestically produce. Even larger coalitions might have problems. Then there's the fact that skillbooks and BPs are of extremely limited supply in Null.

TL;DR: Null would survive, but massive fleet battles would become rarer due to smaller supply of ships, coalitions would have to use most of their moongoo and other materials to run their industry instead of padding their leaders wallets, and some trade between different Nullsec powers would likely have to be established.

So you mean that that players would have to actually build an economy instead of acting like warlords over a despoiled land? That's a great idea.



yes me in my 400dps battleships (about 2 at present wallet) shall bring the eve economy to their knees . For at least half an hour at any rate

In theory yes.
It would entail a change in the nul-bloc mindset however.
Industrial corps would have to go from being scorned and ridiculed to coveted and cherished.


The reverse is not true, highsec industry needs materials that cannot be sourced within highsec.


Would it be good for the game? .. no, it would be disastrous.

in some ways yes, some ways no.

While it would be disastrous to the existing economy and to the player base. It would mean that the null sec empires would actually start running themselves like real empires. Setting up an economy both internally and externally and developing a stable interstellar community. In other words building a real fictional empire/civilisation, instead of the existing resource extraction back to high sec bare bones economy you have now.

But I will admit while this idea sounds interesting to look at an observe, I doubt the people who will have to build and mine rather than shoot stuff will find it fun.

i think you might be talking about warp bubbles but they can't be used in low sec.
jump freighters jump to a low sec station undock. then they warp to the high sec gate with 100% immunity from ganking with any sized fleet.
If u want to kill them u have to bump them away from a station undock, catch them in an unusual place or at a jump bridge or the most popular option...... kill them in high sec either via war dec or suicide ganking. I suspect you have spent very little time in low or null Mr OP.

fine yes I have no experience at jump drives so its all completely for nothing, odd no one has mentioned blockade runners yet?

i would love to see something like this but i would limit it to the following

all low-0.0 gates gone
JF gone

but keep the WH's to keep some connection going so BP's and players can move easily and with some effort freighters can be moved across as well

this would force 0.0 to either set up their own industry or spend a lot of time looking for WH connections to move freighters :)

yes it would completely change 0.0 warfare

instead of alarm-clock CTA's and massive numbers being the deciding factor the supply-lines would be the most important cause whoever can keep their supply's up the longest will end up winning with the other side running out of stuff to fight with :)

Why would you want to separate the low class (null) from the highclass (high)?



*This is not a slight or opinion of quality of areas, but seriously, who in null flies 60 bil isk worth ratting ships that are not even capital sized?