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Tengu severely outclassed by Raven with new upcoming launcher?

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Malrikk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-09-29 07:29:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Malrikk
As I'm sure you're all aware, come Rubicon they're adding a new heavy assault launcher for battleship class ships. (Battleship like DPS in a fast heavy launcher, to fight small to medium ships, but not quite cruise missile DPS in their words.)

How do you feel this will effect the Tengu in missions and PvP? Will the Raven completely eclipse it?
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-09-29 07:35:40 UTC
if it does, awesome.
if it doesn't, well who the **** cares anyway?

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Vordek Rei
Masters of Mass
#3 - 2013-09-29 07:40:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Vordek Rei
Battleship, repeat after me - Baaaattttllllleee - there that's good.
Now say Strategic Cruiser, after me, Sttttrrrraaeeegggic - good good.
Good boy now go out side and play.
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-09-29 07:45:36 UTC
Vordek Rei wrote:
Battleship, repeat after me - Baaaattttllllleee - there that's good.
Now say Strategic Cruiser, after me, Sttttrrrraaeeegggic - good good.
Good boy now go out side and play.



I don't care. I just want this thread to become a goddamn threadnaught. now where's the popcorn?

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Riyal
invidious Squid
#5 - 2013-09-29 07:46:24 UTC
I hear battleships are very fast and have a small signature radius, especially the Raven.

In hindsight my post should have had more psssshhhh
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#6 - 2013-09-29 07:59:02 UTC
It's all about the rail tengu now anyway.

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Xearal
Dead's Prostitutes
The Initiative.
#7 - 2013-09-29 08:25:40 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
It's all about the rail tengu now anyway.


But.. But.. But.. what about my civilian mining laser tengu?

Does railgun ammunition come in Hollow Point?
Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
#8 - 2013-09-29 08:37:11 UTC
So is the Tengu getting nerfed? What?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL8e2ujXe8g

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#9 - 2013-09-29 08:40:33 UTC
Shederov Blood wrote:
So is the Tengu getting nerfed? What?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL8e2ujXe8g


Soon.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#10 - 2013-09-29 08:53:23 UTC
So battleships will get to use heavy missiles, while the tengu is using HAMs

unless there are RAPID HAMS, all the hams everywhereeeeee

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ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-09-29 09:09:35 UTC
Vordek Rei wrote:
Battleship, repeat after me - Baaaattttllllleee - there that's good.
Now say Strategic Cruiser, after me, Sttttrrrraaeeegggic - good good.
Good boy now go out side and play.


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Aivo Dresden
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-09-29 09:43:24 UTC
It's about time really. Battleships should do more damage than cruisers. It's 2 ship sizes up. It's also about time these Tech 3 FoTM people start looking at other ships.

Don't worry though, your beloved Tengu isn't being touched. There are many other ships that already do more damage than Tengus in PvE content anyway, I don't really see the problem.
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-09-29 09:46:04 UTC
lol like those tech 3 guys aren't going to sit right in those battleships that are just as effective to them as you and still keep right on winning.
Mr Pragmatic
#14 - 2013-09-29 10:28:31 UTC
Grrrrr tengu.....

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#15 - 2013-09-29 10:32:23 UTC
Malrikk wrote:
As I'm sure you're all aware, come Rubicon they're adding a new heavy assault launcher for battleship class ships. (Battleship like DPS in a fast heavy launcher, to fight small to medium ships, but not quite cruise missile DPS in their words.)

How do you feel this will effect the Tengu in missions and PvP? Will the Raven completely eclipse it?


The Raven already applies more effective DPS than the Tengu. Nothing about the Raven is changing that will alter the balance between Raven and Tengu for mission-running: it's still a slow, clumsy steamroller. Now it will likely have better survivability against smaller targets, but it will no doubt lose some DPS in the bargain.

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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#16 - 2013-09-29 11:33:24 UTC
Caldari battleships are getting a buff (confirmed), and Tengus are all but getting a nerf (hinted).
I'd say game, set and match.

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Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#17 - 2013-09-29 23:14:08 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Caldari battleships are getting a buff (confirmed), and Tengus are all but getting a nerf (hinted).
I'd say game, set and match.


It's not just tengus, I surmise that all t3 are going to be hit with the nerf bat, as certain configurations can be well op.

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Seraph Essael
Air
The Initiative.
#18 - 2013-09-30 00:09:22 UTC
Don't forget that the Tengu is considerably faster than the Raven... Amongst other things, this reason will mean that the Strategic Cruiser mission runners will probably still use the T3's for their missions...

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stoicfaux
#19 - 2013-09-30 00:34:16 UTC  |  Edited by: stoicfaux
The T2 AML, err Rapid Light Launcher has a 20% rof bonus over the T2 LM launcher. So if we extrapolate that 20%,
CNR: 8 / .8 = 10 effective HML/HAM launchers.
versus
Tengu: 6 * 1.25 / (1-.375) = 12 effective HML/HAM launchers. (Or 9.6 launchers going strictly by RoF, i.e. ignore the kinetic damage bonus.)

/meh

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#20 - 2013-09-30 00:39:33 UTC
It won't affect the Tengu in the slightest since it's a battleship module.

Ok, maybe a bit in PvP, where it'll be a weapon that can hit the Tengu with at least some precision, but meh…
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