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It was actually just a sop to broaden the general appeal of my argument, but now you've ruined it.

Thanks.

Sokath, his eyes uncovered!

Some of my previous posts probably make more sense in that light, no?

I can agree with pretty much anything CCP says or does outside of the game on the general principle that "it's their business" and none of mine. The problem is that the rewards are ingame. They're creating a whole new form of PvP. Third-party websites will be competing for ingame rewards and as soon as it becomes clear what the rules are, the true metagaming will begin. That stage will be immediately followed by the "Rules Lawyer" phase in which every third party website engages in a battle royale of Who's Best and Who Met the Criteria But Got Jacked, Again, Because CCP Is Mean, Hates Me, and Supports My Enemy.

Inevitably, someone will point out that unless the rewards are all given out simultaneously, timing is a factor. Rewards are a benefit NOW, and if you give my enemy a pile of goodies NOW, I might not survive to collect my own pile of isk later. Your place in the line becomes a point of contention.

And then, and then, and then.

If CCP wants to reward third-party sites for helping build CCP's business, they should do it out of game. The concept of providing a free Fanfest trip and that sort of thing is a great idea. If someone feels strongly about ingame incentives, then the rewards should be cosmetic but permanent. Naming systems, planets, or stations, that sort of thing. Perhaps something along the lines of getting a chance to push certain fixes/additions/"resonable things" to the top of CCP's to do list.

It is inevitable that cash and ISK rewards will have bad results. This game is full of really smart people who live to figure out how to game the system.

Poorly twisted and avoiding my original question

People can quite clearly see what I am asking and that is why did nobody have any issues before but now they do?

as it turns out a lot of people are indeed surprised to find out that somer blink was gifted items by CCP not one, but twice

not all of us are gambling addicts who compulsively f5 for promos and celebrations, so forgive us for not being aware of every single thing somer blink has ever given away

Thanks CSM, good work so far! And while I am criticizing a lot about this issue I still believe CCP intended well with this whole thing and didn't omit the CSM because they knew the answer would be negative. But of course intending well is not enough.

Either deliberately or maybe by chance, all those 3rd parties you mention are out-of-game non-profit entities and not in ingame competition with anyone. I would be much less concerned about the whole issue if such an organization had been chosen instead of an ingame for-profit one.

That said, even in the case of an out-of-game non-profit organization I still wouldn't want the CCP support to be massive ingame valuables but rather out-of-game stuff as much as possible. Because even when the organizations themselves are not in competition the players making up the organizations are part of the sandbox and therefore always somehow in competition.

Strictly personally speaking as one of 3 EveHQ devs it would feel wrong to me if we were handed massively valuable ingame stuff from CCP. I won't deny that I would stroke my epeen and be very happy if we were to get a Spotlight dev blog though.

Uh oh, is that the same legal team that is supposedly reworking the 3rd party dev license without any published progress since January? Which is what apparently is a major factor of keeping CREST from being deployed. Which incidentally is something the whole 3rd party dev community could massively profit from without any issues of favouritism.

If the answer is yes, then please don't slow down that precious legal team any more.

Considering the amount of people who play Somerblink I find it very hard to believe that only a handful of players knew about the Q1 Gifts, especially considering a couple of well know Eve Bloggers posted about it and its was on both EN24 and Reddit.

So yeah, trying to come across all high and mighty and classing everybody who play's somer as "gambling addicts" is pretty low, even by your standards.

You don't have to buy a GTC, that's just one of the ways to get blink credit. It's either that or sending them isk in game.

All I see are goons metagamining in this thread because they didn't get the shiny and somer blink did. I don't play lotteries so I don't give a rats arse about it. Also attempting to tie the game down to US law when it's clearly an international product is just stupid. If it's not legal where you live don't play...