EVE General Discussion

I think CCP is looking for more ways for players to provoke fights. Grinding down a POS takes time and nobody likes to shoot structures when you're roaming with a small gang.

It's not something that outright puts a spanner in the works of sov but it can be annoying enough to provoke a response.

I'm cautiously optimistic. Hopefully they commit to retooling it until it provides the general result that they're looking for. Stuff like this is hard to project around, so you need to be prepared to tweak it after initial implementation.

Again, the idea is definitely in the right direction.

I'd argue that it actually helps the people you are talking about. Goons, btw.

Depending on how the siphon system ends up working out, this will be the single greatest buff to griefing ever devised. Think about it this way.

If it's easily usable, lets say, by cloaky trasport ships, then it will be spammed relentlessly unless they make them cost or time prohibitive. It could easily get to the point that it's unviable to even put a pos in most systems. And if they are hard to use, for instance large enough to only be carried in a freighter, then they will make little impact.

Another possibility becomes, as I mentioned before, will pos guns be able to shoot at these deployable modules? If so, then you have to have a fleet take down the guns first, then you can harvest their stuff instead of having to take down their POS. This seems to me to be the most likely and least obviously trolling way to make us use these.

Time prohibitive is my likely thought of how they will restrict these. If it takes, oh, 4 hours for this thing to steal, and it does it all in one big burst at the end of the cycle, then it could not easily be used to troll.

Otherwise... prepare for the siphon spamming. (oh, and for the new skill this will undoubtedly require)

That's the only way i see it working. However, then you get in to the issue of TZs, encouraging vast multi TZ alliances that can offer round the clock responses. It still doesn't really solve the issue of forcing people to fight for their stuff when they're actually playing, but without a lot of time to prepare the blob response like timers do. Otherwise you're just creating more TZ structure ping pong that plays to massive organizations.

And that really has to do with the problem of sov in general.

I don't really see what the problem is with multi TZ alliances though. That's good, smart gameplay. I mean, what good is a mechanic with the literal intent to deny you the ability to sleep? That's the real ping pong, batting the same nonsense back and forth because people at odds with each other sleep at different times.

dickstars wouldn't defend against siphons. you'd /need/ guns.

So what? I know, the whole "solo players suffer when blobs win" thing, but there really is no way to prevent people from using numbers as an advantage. It's realistic, too, to be honest.

Friends are OP. Accept it, embrace it. It's pretty much the law of the game in everywhere but highsec, where you actually can stick your fingers in your ears and not play with other people if you want.

And sometimes, you want to do that, I get it. But EVE is an MMO first and foremost, it's a social game. There's stuff (other games) coming out soon more solo friendly anyway.

If POS guns autoattack a siphon, it would be pretty useless, as this would mean you have to shoot down the guns, which in turn means that whoever you're trying to steal from will know you're up to something.

I hope to see them more like a tool for small corps/alliances to steal from the larger ones they can't possibly hope to match in outright combat. Go in all sneaky like, deploy them at some juicy R64s, go out and cause a ruckus somewhere else with a fast roaming gang as a diversion, then come back, grab the loot and be gone.

The other upbeat about these is that no longer will alliances be able to properly defend their POSses against smaller entities and such unless they actually hold/control the space the POSses are in. So groups like the old nomadic PL who owned a lot of moons, but didn't really control the space they were in, just dropped in hard and heavy on anyone messing with their income will have a harder time keeping their passive income streams running like that.

Yeah, I noticed that too, i wonder what CCP has planned, but even the idea i like

La Revolution was 200 years ago, mate. Those damn rebel Caldari still refuse to admit that they're still part of the Gallente FEderation.